CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

[jespah]

The announcements (via email, Twitter, FB, blogging, and YT) are all way, way more footage than Axa was ever going to be, even before the lawsuit.

Making the film means he has to put up or shut up. AP has done neither. Making it means he can be judged, and the judgments will only get harsher the longer this drags on for. E. g. "You had two years to make this, and it looks like that?" As that time period arches ever higher, the criticisms will become less and less charitable.

Not making the film keeps AP in martyrdom status with the remaining faithful. Making it means the chapter closes, and they (mainly) move onto the next thing.

It is in AP's best interests to never, ever make anything ever resembling Axa, but to continue talking and behaving as if he will. And it is also in his best interests to deflect with activities which the faithful will gleefully and without checking accept, hook, line, and sinker, as being expensive and time-consuming. Hence, lawsuits (which are in AP's modus operandi anyway).

Sorry, can't make the film, gotta be in court.

And it also buys right into RMB saying (what I believe to be true) that AP reveled in being on the receiving end of the lawsuit, that he loved the attention. But it also gave him a terrific out, where he just couldn't move forward (never mind that he actually could, according to court papers).

Sorry, can't make the film, gotta be in court.

Where's the money? Where are the perks? Where's the film?

...

WHERE'S THE MOVIE, ALEC?

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I've had my online squabbles with RMB during the Axanar lawsuit and I don't think much of his view of STAR TREK, but I applaud him on speaking out on what happened from his perspective. This is the most raw and vulnerable I've seen him. You can feel his hurt, pain and disappointment.

While I sympathize with him, I still find it dubious to be compensated from money raised off the back of another IP, without permission or ownership. And I say that as someone who firmly believes in being compensated for work done, especially in creative endeavours.

 

[JD]

OK, I didn't watch the video but from what you guys have said it sounds RMB might have actually regained a bit of his sanity.
I don't know if it could actually happen, but I was thinking it would be funny if RMB decided to do his own fan film, and actually made it and got a really good reaction. It would be worth it just to see Alec's head explode.

The announcements (via email, Twitter, FB, blogging, and YT) are all way, way more footage than Axa was ever going to be, even before the lawsuit.

Making the film means he has to put up or shut up. AP has done neither. Making it means he can be judged, and the judgments will only get harsher the longer this drags on for. E. g. "You had two years to make this, and it looks like that?" As that time period arches ever higher, the criticisms will become less and less charitable.

Not making the film keeps AP in martyrdom status with the remaining faithful. Making it means the chapter closes, and they (mainly) move onto the next thing.

It is in AP's best interests to never, ever make anything ever resembling Axa, but to continue talking and behaving as if he will. And it is also in his best interests to deflect with activities which the faithful will gleefully and without checking accept, hook, line, and sinker, as being expensive and time-consuming. Hence, lawsuits (which are in AP's modus operandi anyway).

Sorry, can't make the film, gotta be in court.

And it also buys right into RMB saying (what I believe to be true) that AP reveled in being on the receiving end of the lawsuit, that he loved the attention. But it also gave him a terrific out, where he just couldn't move forward (never mind that he actually could, according to court papers).

Sorry, can't make the film, gotta be in court.

Where's the money? Where are the perks? Where's the film?

I am a bit curious how long it will take for even Alec's most devoted followers to finally give up and stop paying attention to him. I would like to think that even the most faithful would have to give up eventually.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Axanar website has a video update explaining what has happened in the last two years since the lawsuit ended:
https://axanarproductions.com/axanar-video-update-is-live/

Love those probably fake comments at the bottom

Thank you Alec and the entire Axanar Team for being true to the Star Trek so many of us have loved. I do believe you would have Mr. Roddenberry’s approval

So a war story is true Star Trek?

I am so happy to see Axanar continue. We will finally get to see the story we have waited years for! Thank you so much to the tireless and selfless cast, crew, and fans for making this happen!

This one really doesn't need a comment.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I listened to it. Just when you thought Axanar couldn't implode any more...

Surprised Rob's reason for not wanting to do Axanar anymore because Discovery has rendered it's version of the Klingon War non-canon. You fanboy.

 

[Krandor]

Supposedly tomorrow RMD is going to release a big video with all the footage he has of AP and Axanar including AP trying to act out a scene from A few good men in costume. AP hates the idea.... this is going to get good.

 

[Noname Given]

IDK - RMB still comes across as a jerk, and for a time he was in full on BS mode hand in hand with Alec. Some of his statements seem very self serving and I can't believe he was as 'unaware' of certain things as he seems to claim here. IE - He seemed to stay silent FOR YEARS as Alec claimed "Christian Gossett didn't really direct or actually do much for Prelude To Axanar..." - which we now learn (unsurprisingly) YES Cristian Gossett DID pretty much DO ALL of "Prelude To Axanar", etc.

As to RMB's claim "$3000 a month wasn't a lot of money..." <--- Yeah, for a "Hollywood Professional", no it's not, but it still works out to $17.34 an hour (assuming a full time 40 hour work week); which is probably a lot more than MANY of those who 'pledged' their hard earned money to Axanar. So yeah, what a dick. (Oh, and a new Apple laptop and a replacement car CAN also be considered 'payment' of a kind too).

The one thing I took away was that Alec WAS using the money raised on A LOT of personal/non-project related stuff, but of course will never admit to it.

Still it's going to be interesting how Alec and his sycophants try to spin these disclosures ( which is pretty much what most of us with a functioning brain thought was going on) end up trying to spin all this.

 

[urbandefault]

I just don't see a lot of grownups in the core group of this dumpster fire. How much of the money was spent for babysitting?

WHERE'S THE MOVIE, ALEC?

 

[RedForman]

RMB IMO is still an idiot, though after that vid, deserves a tad bit more respect than he has in the past.

As always, Alec is still a fraud. After past business ventures left him high and dry, he concocted another scheme to charge up his cashflow. Prelude is the proof (seriously - aside from the CGI, all you had to do was film the talking heads, then the flashbacks/vignettes and that would be it). All this BS drama that's gone on is a pathetic attempt to keep the con going and the cash flowing (because he, being an abject failure, couldn't succeed anywhere else in life)

I pray that in 2019, CBS or some other entity finally puts the screws to LFIM and shuts him up.

 

[mthompson1701]

I watched RMB's video over the last couple days (I couldn't do it all in one sitting). I didn't really learn all that much new information, but it confirmed a few things for me. I appreciated hearing his perspective, but there were just some things he would not answer. This whole thing right now just sounds like LFIM wants some attention again.

Two years on from the lawsuit, and still no movie. It's time for LFIM to put up or shut up. I never got my patches or uniform, and if I got them now, they'd go in the garbage. Axanar has soured me on contributing to any fan productions even with the guidelines now in place.

I'll wait to see if and when RMB releases his stuff today. I'd be curious to see it, but i'm more curious about Bill Hunt's version of the screenplay. It has to be better than LFIM's.

 

[lurok]

Comparing the videos: RMB comes across as someone who loves filmmaking. AP comes across as salesman.
RMB: "I've never met a lazier human being who expected to be a movie producer"

 

[Csalem]

I listened to the RMB video and found it interesting.

What strikes me the most about the Axanar affair is how all of these people were brought together through a love of Star Trek but that has now turned to bitterness with people falling out and being sued. At a human level I find it quite sad and despairing.

 

[Krandor]

Make some popcorn people. RMB just tweeted he's going to be on youtube again at noon pacific to discuss axanar again.


Robert Meyer Burnett‏ @BurnettRM 9m9 minutes ago
Going LIVE today at NOON PST on @YouTube on The Burnettwork to once again discuss @Axanarfilm! This time, I’m going to present some very unflattering things about...MYSELF! Plus, a few more interesting nuggets which may be of some interest...


Robert Meyer Burnett‏ @BurnettRM 1m1 minute ago
Today is the day to ask me all the hard, potentially embarrassing questions, about @Axanarfilm. Sisters and Bros...COME AT ME. I invite ALL donors and friends of the project to bring their hardest questions...I’M READY. Join me at HIGH NOON Today PST. The Burnettwork. @YouTube

 

[RedForman]

Make some popcorn people. RMB just tweeted he's going to be on youtube again at noon pacific to discuss axanar again.


Robert Meyer Burnett‏ @BurnettRM 9m9 minutes ago
Going LIVE today at NOON PST on @YouTube on The Burnettwork to once again discuss @Axanarfilm! This time, I’m going to present some very unflattering things about...MYSELF! Plus, a few more interesting nuggets which may be of some interest...

 

[Krandor]

I bet that is exactly what LFIM and Lane are thinking right about now.

 

[RedForman]

LFIM is starting to remind me more and more of Harry Mudd.........

 

[Krandor]

LFIM is starting to remind me more and more of Harry Mudd.........

But without the charm....

 

[RedForman]

But without the charm....

Pretty much

 

[Jedi_Master]

The announcements (via email, Twitter, FB, blogging, and YT) are all way, way more footage than Axa was ever going to be, even before the lawsuit.

Making the film means he has to put up or shut up. AP has done neither. Making it means he can be judged, and the judgments will only get harsher the longer this drags on for. E. g. "You had two years to make this, and it looks like that?" As that time period arches ever higher, the criticisms will become less and less charitable.

Not making the film keeps AP in martyrdom status with the remaining faithful. Making it means the chapter closes, and they (mainly) move onto the next thing.

It is in AP's best interests to never, ever make anything ever resembling Axa, but to continue talking and behaving as if he will. And it is also in his best interests to deflect with activities which the faithful will gleefully and without checking accept, hook, line, and sinker, as being expensive and time-consuming. Hence, lawsuits (which are in AP's modus operandi anyway).

Sorry, can't make the film, gotta be in court.

And it also buys right into RMB saying (what I believe to be true) that AP reveled in being on the receiving end of the lawsuit, that he loved the attention. But it also gave him a terrific out, where he just couldn't move forward (never mind that he actually could, according to court papers).

Sorry, can't make the film, gotta be in court.

Where's the money? Where are the perks? Where's the film?

I agree. He can't complete the project or he loses what's left of his audience. He has to keep pretending so that he stays relevant (even in a very limited sense).
The same goes for his favorite blogger, Mr. Lane.

 

[Krandor]

The same goes for his favorite blogger, Mr. Lane.

That may be soon to be fan film maker Lane. Lane is teasing getting into the crowdfunding game and maybe making a fan film.