CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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  1. dmac

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    Personally I wouldn't be putting all my Paramount eggs into a single Trek basket.
    As much as I enjoy space adventures the Trek Universe has become so well regulated that creativity quickly turns to blasphemy and that's a trap Paramount can't keep from sticking their finger in.
    Was JJ trek really that bad or just not hold up the Trek standard?
     
  2. Admiral2

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    It. Was. That. Bad. Honestly.
     
  3. dmac

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    I thought so too the first few times I watched it then I put on my old worn out producer hat and watched it as if it with the serial numbers filed off and it's better than most modern space adventures coming from the big studios.
     
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  4. Tomalak

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    Star Trek 09 remains a great film. It was a shot in the arm for the franchise after Enterprise. The problem was what came after - i.e. a very long wait and then a bloated sequel.

    But if you approach that first movie with an open mind and treat it as a remake of the original show, it's got a lot of merit.
     
  5. Therin of Andor

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    "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" made me a "Star Trek" fan and the 2009 movie gave me the exact same sense of wonder and of being on that ship that TMP did. I saw the 2009 movie with a friend I met a few weeks after we both saw TMP individually, and we both had that same immersive experience.

    Despite many TOS fans hating TMP, or merely tolerating it until they got ST II, TMP brought many brand new fans into the franchise. As did the 2009 movie (and ST IV and TNG, too. And DSC for that matter).

    For me, the weird thing about "Prelude to Axanar": it had talking heads making speeches and space battles. Everything that was supposedly bad about the 2009 movie.
     
  6. Tomalak

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    Oh yeah, they complained that the films were just "pew pew" but made a fan film about a literal space war.

    I never got that. I guess it was just the wrong type of pew pew.
     
  7. dmac

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    It's hard to fight stigma. A British audio production studio asked me to come up with a serious Galaxy Quest 20 years before the movie. None of the campy movie stuff even happened yet. I Wrote the pilot, 6 episodes and 10 episodes in the pipeline. Started recording the third episode and about everyone on the production crew hated it, to the point where it made them sick because it wasn't the Galaxy Quest they were looking for. Words were said, the production fell apart. Months down the road Episode 2 won the Parsec award. It's just the way of things.
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    Yes, it does. It reflects very heavily much of tropes of TOS and does it well.
    Yeah, that's what always bothered me too. "Don't do pew pew" and then creates a pew-pew" production..,huh?
     
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  9. Therin of Andor

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    Just no lens flare. ;)
     
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  10. drt

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    Not only that, but almost all of their visual effects were directly copied from '09 or Into Darkness shots.
     
  11. 137th Gebirg

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    Yep, many of the background ships were Abramsverse designs, but with prime-TOS warp nacelles. There was the scene of the hero ship emerging from mist, an enemy vessel crashing down in water near a city, etc.
     
  12. Tuskin38

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    Not even that, they were modified designs, to look 'less advanced', but ended up IMO looking more advanced than the TOS Enterprise's nacelles.

    The and USS Ares itself had even more detailing and design elements that would fit better post-TOS than Pre-TOS. Like Refit style phaser emitters and a glowing deflector dish. The rim windows are also straight from the Movie era. They didn't update the Constitution Class design in Prelude to match, so it just looks out of place.
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  13. drt

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    Yeah, it's particularly weird since a big plot point of Axanar is that the Constitution class is supposed to be the next great thing that will win the war for the Federation, yet the Ares ship looks way more advanced.
     
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  14. mthompson1701

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    When I was active in the Axanar Facebook group, one time I asked AP with the amount of TOS sets that are available, why can't your captains receive a Constitution-class ship, and have it be the Constitutions that turn the tide of the war? AP replied that he had to have the Ares, and that he couldn't tell the story without the Ares. He thought of the Constitution as if it were the next model car up from the Ares. He also said he did not like the way the Enterprise looked in The Cage, and did not like The Cage lasers, so he was going to ignore it.
     
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  15. dmac

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    The exterior is eye candy. The interior is brain food.
    It doesn't matter how many viewers show up if you can't feed them.
     
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  16. fireproof78

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    Ah, I see. So, if CBS ignores parts of Trek it's "not real Star Trek" and damaging the franchise. However, if a fan film chooses to ignore something it's totally fine.

    Now I know. And knowing makes it even more confusing...:shrug:
     
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  17. drt

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    Based on what transpired, I'm thinking he wanted the Ares so that he could sell junk related to it.
     
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  18. dmac

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    He could have gone with Axanar The Musical
     
  19. Mytran

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    Needs an exclamation mark :devil:
     
  20. MikeH92467

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    He hasn't been able to do an audio podcast version which he promised some time in the dim, forgotten past. I would guess it turned out to be a lot harder than he thought that it would. As an aside, Starship Excelsior did a musical version and I can assure you one and all, that it was a stone cold bitch of a project, but we got it done. Go to our website if you want to hear it. :)
     
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