CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens
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Tampaxanar laid out the Axanar universe and it's relation to the Star Trek universe years ago
Seriously? Wouldn't it be easier to just order a bunch of TOS costumes from Anovos, or some other company?
Tampaxanar laid out the Axanar universe and it's relation to the Star Trek universe years ago
In practice it's nothing. It's all derivative of content he doesn't have the rights too. He may "own" Khairn, but he can't do anything with him.
Technically, Star Trek is a multiverse with an untold number of universes, so what's your point? With a multiverse being canon, there could theoretically be a universe where the Enterprise is commanded by a sentient Bacon, Lettuce and Tomato sandwich.
Comparing the new budget to the old one...
Budget Decreases:
Food - It would seem this has been reduced by about $300. Might have something to do with schedule changes related to dropping Neutral Zone Studios.
Travel and Lodging - He's reduced this by about $700. I'm guessing he's not renting the car anymore, on account of dropping Neutral Zone Studios as a filming location. He may also have convinced Alec to let one of his directors stay in a spare room, although it's hard to tell by the articles.
Studio Rental - Reduced by $200, on account of switching to Glen Wolfe's sickbay set.
Uniform Turtlenecks - Lane saved $350 by switching to mock turtlenecks. (This will probably be cooler for the actors as well, because they'll be wearing few layers of clothing.)
Travel and Lodging - He's reduced this by about $700. I'm guessing he's not renting the car anymore, on account of dropping Neutral Zone Studios as a filming location. He may also have convinced Alec to let one of his directors stay in a spare room, although it's hard to tell by the articles.
Studio Rental - Reduced by $200, on account of switching to Glen Wolfe's sickbay set.
Uniform Turtlenecks - Lane saved $350 by switching to mock turtlenecks. (This will probably be cooler for the actors as well, because they'll be wearing few layers of clothing.)
Budget Increases:
Production Insurance - $2,000. This is easily the largest reason for the budget increase, and it's exclusion seems like an oversight in the original budget more than anything else.
Contengency ("What could possibly go wrong?") - Increased by $200. This seems to be at the advice of his directors.
Service Fee - The crowdfunding service fee is percentage-based, so because the budget overall has increased, the fee increases proportionally by $50. Make sense, and compared to the rest of the budget, this is pocket change.
Contengency ("What could possibly go wrong?") - Increased by $200. This seems to be at the advice of his directors.
Service Fee - The crowdfunding service fee is percentage-based, so because the budget overall has increased, the fee increases proportionally by $50. Make sense, and compared to the rest of the budget, this is pocket change.
Conclusion:
Given that he added $2,200 for insurance and contingency, and the increase in budget is only $700, I don't see any unreasonable changes here. Whatever you'd question in the new budget was already in the old one. Nothing to see here.
That, thus far, there is very little original content to distinguish this Axanar universe from Star Trek universe.
Seeing as he's explicitly stating that it's a Star Trek fan film, and considering that the article cited doesn't appear to profess such originality on his part, I fail to see your point. As for the "Axanar Universe", he's simply trying to establish that his fan film is in continuity with Prelude to Axanar and (if it ever comes out) Axanar. This is no different than saying that a fan film is set in the "Mirror, Mirror" universe, or the Avalon Universe, or even the Pacific 201 Universe.
Oh, sure there has!
- A consistently crappy script.
- An inability to actually execute.
Ok...the phrasing is odd to me so I don't know what else to tell you.
Then why waste $8,000 on uniforms for a ten minute fan film. Those were not the uniforms seem in Prelude..........if making the film is the desired goal I would think 20 custom made tunics would be far down the list. Do background actors really need $200 boots and $100 trousers to walk through a scene?
Jonathan Lane has written an article on a court case involving Anovos which I think put him off going with them:
https://fanfilmfactor.com/2019/06/0...-against-cbs-disney-nbc-universal-and-anovos/
BTW, the guidelines don't exactly say you can't make your own costumes.
Which is vaguely worded because it sets a condition (if it uses) which one could argue does not apply if the production is not using commercially available items. I know this guideline is in part to discourage cottage industries of making and selling replica costumes and props. If they absolutely meant you can't make your own costumes they'd need to have phrased that more succinctly.
Neither of which really matters to Lane and Co. because their uniform designs can't be purchased commercially since they designed them (badly).
4. If the fan production uses commercially-available Star Trek uniforms, accessories, toys and props, these items must be official merchandise and not bootleg items or imitations of such commercially available products.
Which is vaguely worded because it sets a condition (if it uses) which one could argue does not apply if the production is not using commercially available items. I know this guideline is in part to discourage cottage industries of making and selling replica costumes and props. If they absolutely meant you can't make your own costumes they'd need to have phrased that more succinctly.
Neither of which really matters to Lane and Co. because their uniform designs can't be purchased commercially since they designed them (badly).
It's a total of $8,850.00, with the most expensive costume being about $637.50 and the least expensive being $337.50. I'm not going to argue if those costs reasonable, because I don't honestly know, and I think it's largely subjective anyways, as different people have different standards regarding the quality of fan films.
Regarding whether or not new uniforms are necessary, remember that Prelude only shows people talking about events after-the-fact. They're wearing uniforms appropriate for the time in which the fictional documentary is being made, not uniforms from the time period being talked about by the participants. The uniforms he's using are consistent with those already designed for the Axanar fan film, and depicted in the associated comic, so his use of those uniforms is consistent with a desire to make a fan film in continuity with Axanar.
There is not intellectual "Gotcha!" to be had here. Just a straight-up judgement call of whether the uniforms are worth the money, and I'll leave that up to Lane's potential funders to decide.
Again, I don't know enough about budget productions to know what's reasonable regarding price. (By the way, it's actually $100 for boots, and he's only buying them for the people who will be visible from the waist down on camera. The rest of the cast can probably just get away with wearing black from the waist down, just in case they're slightly visible in the shot.)
That said, I personally find it very distracting in fan films when uniforms are ill-fitting and mismatched. I think you'd be surprised how easily the audience can pick up on thinks like the different boots, or pants with different cuts or even different shades of black. I'm not saying I'd pay hundreds of dollars per uniform for a ten minute fan film, but I sure as heck would want everyone to be wearing THE SAME uniform.
CBS has succinctly stated that one can always make their own costumes and props. The grey area is if you can pay someone to make one-off costumes for you. The hard do-not-cross line is buying from unauthorized / unlicensed vendors.
Had they? If so, I've forgotten. Where was this indicated?
Would contracting someone to create a costume according to a copyrighted pattern you provided them constitute copyright violation on the part of the contracted tailor, or would you yourself be liable, or both?
Ok, I hadn't heard about that. I'm sorry, but if they don't give you a specific release date, and it's common knowledge that this stuff can take years to come out, then IMO it's a bit ridiculous to be suing them over it.
As for Lane's movie, even if he doesn't trust Anovos enough to go with them, then there are still other people making costumes. Hell, Rubies makes Trek Holloween costumes, and they're only like $20-$60. Obviously they won't be as good as something like Anovos, but IMO it would work for the kind of thing he's talking about here. If this was a big ongoing series like Continues, or New Voyages/Phase II,or a completely original production that's going to be going to film festivals and competing for bit awards like The Oscars, I could see spending the kind of money he's talking about, but it's ridiculous for a one-off 10 minute fan film short.
