Casting Pike's Number One

[johnnybear]

Not on a TV budget, and what about their voices?



Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock and The Voyage Home are in different realities then according to those guidelines.

I'm sure there are other examples.

Well they did it quite well for Trials and Tribbleations on DS9 so I'm sure they could do Spock and a few of the others just for a few scenes and dub Nimoy's voice from TOS!
Wrath of Khan and the other two are in different realities? Is that because of Kirstie Allie's Saavik? Well I can't answer that one but maybe Vulcans have the ability to alter their physical appearance to a lesser degree? I mean the woman that played T'Pau in ENT looked nothing like Celia Lovsky in Amok time!
JB
JB

 

[Nerys Myk]

Wrath of Khan and the other two are in different realities? Is that because of Kirstie Allie's Saavik? Well I can't answer that one but maybe Vulcans have the ability to alter their physical appearance to a lesser degree? I mean the woman that played T'Pau in ENT looked nothing like Celia Lovsky in Amok time!

No, it's because of Robin Curtis as Saavik. You know, a recast like you mentioned. I can't take the shape shifting Vulcan theory seriously. You can't bitch about changes and then pull that out of your ass!

Well they did it quite well for Trials and Tribbleations on DS9 so I'm sure they could do Spock and a few of the others just for a few scenes and dub Nimoy's voice from TOS!

It worked because they didn't actually involve TOS characters in the main plot.

 

[Tuskin38]

Well they did it quite well for Trials and Tribbleations on DS9 so I'm sure they could do Spock and a few of the others just for a few scenes and dub Nimoy's voice from TOS!
Wrath of Khan and the other two are in different realities? Is that because of Kirstie Allie's Saavik? Well I can't answer that one but maybe Vulcans have the ability to alter their physical appearance to a lesser degree? I mean the woman that played T'Pau in ENT looked nothing like Celia Lovsky in Amok time!
JB
JB

What about Tora Ziyal, are Cardassians shape shifters as well?

 

[Greg Cox]

Here's the thing: recasting a part doesn't mean that you're talking a different timeline. Just means they . . . recast a part, just like movie and TV series have done since forever. Heck, there were at least three different Marilyns on THE MUNSTERS if you count the feature film. And have we forgotten the two Darrens on BEWITCHED? Or the two Dumbledores in the HARRY POTTER movies. Or the umpteen Felix Leiters in the James Bond movies? Were those all different realities as well?

The role and the actor are not the same thing. Different actors can play the same role. That's kinda what acting is all about. It's pretend, make-believe.

Again, not every change requires an "in-universe" explanation, like shape-changers or whatever. Sometimes the "explanation" is as simple as "the original actors from the 1960s are dead, so we need to recast."

Seems pretty straightforward and practical to me.

 

[DEWLine]

I want Palicki back on SHIELD, so no to that suggestion.

 

[Uhura's Song]

Here's the thing: recasting a part doesn't mean that you're talking a different timeline. Just means they . . . recast a part, just like movie and TV series have done since forever. Heck, there were at least three different Marilyns on THE MUNSTERS if you count the feature film. And have we forgotten the two Darrens on BEWITCHED? Or the two Dumbledores in the HARRY POTTER movies. Or the umpteen Felix Leiters in the James Bond movies? Were those all different realities as well?

The role and the actor are not the same thing. Different actors can play the same role. That's kinda what acting is all about. It's pretend, make-believe.

Again, not every change requires an "in-universe" explanation, like shape-changers or whatever. Sometimes the "explanation" is as simple as "the original actors from the 1960s are dead, so we need to recast."

Seems pretty straightforward and practical to me.

Amen. Some in here are out of control silly.

 

[johnnybear]

No, it's because of Robin Curtis as Saavik. You know, a recast like you mentioned. I can't take the shape shifting Vulcan theory seriously. You can't bitch about changes and then pull that out of your ass!
It worked because they didn't actually involve TOS characters in the main plot.

Well the Saavik thing I can't really argue one way or tother but I ain't backing down about DSC! So there!
JB

 

[johnnybear]

What about Tora Ziyal, are Cardassians shape shifters as well?

Well with that heavy make-up you can't really notice that much difference! and maybe that's how they change over the years?
JB

 

[Tuskin38]

Well the Saavik thing I can't really argue one way or tother but I ain't backing down about DSC! So there!
JB

Do you even watch the show? Why do you care?

 

[johnnybear]

Temper, temper! I do watch the show, yes! But I'm not really into the current way that television programmes are made and that's all! What's your take on it all?
JB

 

[Mr Pointy Ears]

I wouldn't be surprised if Number One was absent from the Enterprise, just as she was in the 2009 movie. I can see them having Spock as Pike's first officer.

That was the same thought I was thinking about,no number onw just spock as first officer

 

[Kor]

In a clever twist, Burnham will be transferred to the Enterprise and assigned as first officer, thereby becoming the mysterious Number One. The rumors were true!

Kor

 

[Tuskin38]

But DSC is currently 3 years after 'The Cage'

 

[CorporalClegg]

About that, I don't like how the show uses "Number One" as a title - almost as if a stand-in for XO.

My headcanon has always been Pike used it in reference to her mathematical ability with an almost patronizing contempt to impersonalize their relationship. Then Picard, being Picard, discovered it while reading old logs researching his new command's pedigree, and found it to be wholly absurd. So naturally - again, being Picard - he started calling Riker it as his own little satirical joke. But he began to like it, and it became an affectionate pet name.

 

[Kor]

About that, I don't like how the show uses "Number One" as a title - almost as if a stand-in for XO.

My headcanon has always been Pike used it in reference to her mathematical ability with an almost patronizing contempt to impersonalize their relationship. Then Picard, being Picard, discovered it while reading old logs researching his new command's pedigree, and found it to be wholly absurd. So naturally - again, being Picard - he started calling Riker it as his own little satirical joke. But he began to like it, and it became an affectionate pet name.

It's like how ENT turned Spock's casual one-time "It is agreeable to see you again" into a standard greeting that Vulcans went around saying to each other all the time!

Kor

 

[GNDN18]

In O’Brian’s Aubrey/Maturin series, Aubrey often refers to lieutenants by their seniority: “I remember Smith, the number 3 in the horrible old Leopard,” or some such thing. GR’s fondness for Hornblower and the Royal Navy would explain it. As I see it, “Number One” is synonymous with “First Officer” or “”XO.”

 

[Tuskin38]

It's like how ENT turned Spock's casual one-time "It is agreeable to see you again" into a standard greeting that Vulcans went around saying to each other all the time!

Kor

You mean three times?

 

[XCV330]

Una may not actually be human, if the new DSC books are anything to go by, and I think they are to some degree. CBS already has Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio on Limitless. She's a fantastic actor & would make a great Una/#1.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

About that, I don't like how the show uses "Number One" as a title - almost as if a stand-in for XO.

But that’s exactly what it is. “Number One” is a common nickname for a first officer.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Una may not actually be human, if the new DSC books are anything to go by, and I think they are to some degree. CBS already has Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio on Limitless. She's a fantastic actor & would make a great Una/#1.

She's 59. A bit too old to be and up and coming officer.