No, Gaith is right. For it's own continued financial viability Hollywood should only hire male transvestites to play the parts of all women from now on.
Cast Captain Marvel
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Also, it takes awhile to make a movie, but, the actors themselves aren't in front of the cameras for months on end.
It's ridiculous to not hire a woman of a certain age because they might get pregnant. Young women can get pregnant. Older women can get pregnant. The idea has a stench of sexism about it.
Christopher has a good example, but, I'll throw on another. Would you not hire a smoker because they might get cancer?
A renaissance of the Renaissance?
Didn't know that, thanks for the info.
As for not hiring an actress because she might get pregnant...
is all that deserves.
My, God! Shakespeare had it right all along!
Hayden is pregnant and her character on Nashville is pregnant, where the character is busy trying to scam a movie company into not firing her for getting up the duff. I say scam, which is a little harsh, she's just doing the Math in her head assuming that she can get filming finished before she starts showing... But the numbers don't add up.
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I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. I think Emily Blunt is bloody amazing, I love her. But I hate comic adaptations. So I wouldn't want a great actress like Blunt to waste her time on a silly comic movie when she could be doing a really good movie instead. You know, one I'd enjoy. *giggle*
I'm clicking Blunt anyway. She rocks! Maybe she'd make me watch the movie. I enjoyed the first two X-Men movies, is that DC or Marvel?
I know, I know... time to hand in my nerd card.
I'm clicking Blunt anyway. She rocks! Maybe she'd make me watch the movie. I enjoyed the first two X-Men movies, is that DC or Marvel?
I know, I know... time to hand in my nerd card.
Agreed. My thought process was thus:
-I don't like the Carol Danvers Captain Marvel anyway, so my mind immediately went to Carol Danvers' Ms. Marvel, whose costumes would look ridiculously awesome on Kate.
-The list of actresses offered in the poll filled me with various levels of "Meh..." and "ehh..." when I read them, though acting wise Katee Sackhoff's probably best for Danvers Cap.
Does Captain Marvel/Ms. Marvel really have a definitive story worth telling?
Stuff happened to her sure, but was there anything super cool confined to a 6 issue arc that can translate easily into a movie?
Her timeline...
Snitch at NASA trying to trick the alien Captain Marvel into admitting that he is a Russian spy for seven years. Gets her powers. Quits the military to work at J Jonah Jameson's feminist publication Now magazine, gets her brain sucked out by Rogue, Professor Xavier builds her a back up personality that doesn't seem real, so she leaves for space with he space pirates the Starjammers, gets upgraded with white hole derived Binary super powers. Comes back to Earth, joins the Avengers, has a drinking problem, changes her name to "Warbird" because it's not so sexist and she lost her binary powers, the universe is rewritten by House of M where Carol is ten times the Captain America that Captain America is, which pisses her off when reality goes back to normal, so she hires a publicist. Seriously her new book in 2006 was about how a publicist would follow her around and make Ms. Marvel's every adventure a front page news story. Then she hangs out with the Avengers doing avengers stuff, gets a new solo book and... Nothing comes to mind that seems as iconic as Peter failing to save Gwen Stacy from being thrown off a bridge by Norman Osborn, or the Dark Phoenix Saga or Days of Futures Past or...
Wait?
In Avengers #200 Carol shows up magic pregnant. You know how sometimes fictional characters go to sleep, and then wake up seven months preggers, only to give birth later in the evening. Happens all the time. The baby came out talking, grew up into man a couple hours later, Carol kisses him passionately because she's in love with her baby and they get married by the Avengers 1/2 an hour later, which is when they wander off happily ever after into the sunset.
Are alarm bells ringing for you?
A couple months later in an X-Men annual, Carol rings up the Avengers on a secure line and calls them an uncaring pack of assholes for letting her be physically raped and telepathically manipulated and then kidnapped by a weirdo alien when she was OBVIOUSLY not in her right mind or in any condition to make those decisions. She goes on to explain that the X-Men saved her from the dick head pretending to be her husband/baby, and that the X-Men are her real friends who care about her, and that the Avengers can piss up a rope and that she will never EVER trust them again.
(This was in the mid 80s.)
Stuff happened to her sure, but was there anything super cool confined to a 6 issue arc that can translate easily into a movie?
Her timeline...
Snitch at NASA trying to trick the alien Captain Marvel into admitting that he is a Russian spy for seven years. Gets her powers. Quits the military to work at J Jonah Jameson's feminist publication Now magazine, gets her brain sucked out by Rogue, Professor Xavier builds her a back up personality that doesn't seem real, so she leaves for space with he space pirates the Starjammers, gets upgraded with white hole derived Binary super powers. Comes back to Earth, joins the Avengers, has a drinking problem, changes her name to "Warbird" because it's not so sexist and she lost her binary powers, the universe is rewritten by House of M where Carol is ten times the Captain America that Captain America is, which pisses her off when reality goes back to normal, so she hires a publicist. Seriously her new book in 2006 was about how a publicist would follow her around and make Ms. Marvel's every adventure a front page news story. Then she hangs out with the Avengers doing avengers stuff, gets a new solo book and... Nothing comes to mind that seems as iconic as Peter failing to save Gwen Stacy from being thrown off a bridge by Norman Osborn, or the Dark Phoenix Saga or Days of Futures Past or...
Wait?
In Avengers #200 Carol shows up magic pregnant. You know how sometimes fictional characters go to sleep, and then wake up seven months preggers, only to give birth later in the evening. Happens all the time. The baby came out talking, grew up into man a couple hours later, Carol kisses him passionately because she's in love with her baby and they get married by the Avengers 1/2 an hour later, which is when they wander off happily ever after into the sunset.
Are alarm bells ringing for you?
A couple months later in an X-Men annual, Carol rings up the Avengers on a secure line and calls them an uncaring pack of assholes for letting her be physically raped and telepathically manipulated and then kidnapped by a weirdo alien when she was OBVIOUSLY not in her right mind or in any condition to make those decisions. She goes on to explain that the X-Men saved her from the dick head pretending to be her husband/baby, and that the X-Men are her real friends who care about her, and that the Avengers can piss up a rope and that she will never EVER trust them again.
(This was in the mid 80s.)
Several great actors have been in comic book movies, doing one -especially given their popularity now- is not beneath any actor.
I'm clicking Blunt anyway. She rocks! Maybe she'd make me watch the movie. I enjoyed the first two X-Men movies, is that DC or Marvel?
I know, I know... time to hand in my nerd card.
X-Men is Marvel but as far as the movies are concerned the X-Men movies are not connected (continuity-wise) with the "Marvel Cinematic Universe" movies (Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Captain Marvel, etc.)
That time she was raped, got pregnant, and the Avengers were mostly okay with it. And then she gave birth to her rapist's son who was actually an effective clone/reincarnation of her rapist? All this time having been psychologically conditioned to be totally okay with all of this, went along with it, and the Avengers mostly shrugged and were giddy over the baby?
... Yeah. I don't think that story would translate to screen well.
Yeah, should have read all of Guy's post. Yeah, that was a fucked-up story. I have that issue, infact.
Unless it was planned beforehand, which I doubt, it really felt like Chris Claremont was attacking Avengers #200 because of the pain he felt from reading it.
I think it was more to "correct" the damage done in Avengers #200 while not retconning it away. Dealing with those events in a logical way and making the Avengers thinking about the consequence of their actions (or in this case inaction) while not making it just disappear and pretending it never happened.
A fucked up issue #200 was, for sure.
Who cares? They can just retcon a new story for her in the movie, just like they did with more than half the origins for characters they've already put on film.
I never claimed it was, did I?
I said it for purely selfish reasons. Good actors appearing in comic movies means they can't make a movie I'm interested in at the same time.
And now I'm gonna stop here. My post was meant in a light-hearted way, no offense intended.
In any case I'm going to disappear from this thread now because I honestly don't want to derail it. I apologize if my random thought has caused that.
Because if you're not drawing from the wealth of existing Captain Marvel Comics, why use Captain Marvel? And if this so called wealth is actually severely in the red, why does she deserve movie?
The character for Marvel is a good soldier.
She puts in her time, and she's everywhere they need her to be to create an illusion that Marvel is not a sexist boys club, which is great for Marvel but not so for us. She's a fine secondary character and her solo books are readable but forgettable, but if you have to invent a new story for her independent of Carol's 47 years of publication history then that is sexist because it's now inalienable that it is her superficial femaleness that is the more important salepoint again than her personhood despite that it's 2014.
"Hello Miss Upton, um, yes, well you asked us which comic characters you could play for Marvel? Well there are a lot of choices, but we put our heads together and have all decided that you should perhaps think about taking on he part of Ms. Marvel."
"Sharon Ventura, Ms Marvel, the She-Thing? How inspired! I'll be in a giant rubber suit and finally the critics can stop saying that I act with my boobs. This is Fantastic! I am fantastic, I am in the Fantastic Four! Oo! This is amazing I have to tell everyone that... "
Other. Gillian Jacobs.
Would have voted Natalie Dormer out of those list. Don't think Katee Sackhoff could really pull it off (and I liked her as Starbuck.)
Would have voted Natalie Dormer out of those list. Don't think Katee Sackhoff could really pull it off (and I liked her as Starbuck.)
Col. Danvers was career military, well half a career?
It's hard for someone under 30 to make Colonel.
And the longer her second, third and fourth careers continue, it seems like she spent less and less time in the airforce, unless she's pushing 50.
Sam Carter, the character from Stargate, her appearance and attitude, what she had going on, would have been remarkably similar to how I imagine Carol Danvers would have appeared and acted before she became a super hero.
Of course the counter argument is that Samantha Carter is a super hero.
She blows up stars don't you know?
(Really big ones.)
It's hard for someone under 30 to make Colonel.
And the longer her second, third and fourth careers continue, it seems like she spent less and less time in the airforce, unless she's pushing 50.
Sam Carter, the character from Stargate, her appearance and attitude, what she had going on, would have been remarkably similar to how I imagine Carol Danvers would have appeared and acted before she became a super hero.
Of course the counter argument is that Samantha Carter is a super hero.
She blows up stars don't you know?
(Really big ones.)
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