And yet, fear now reigns because of fan backlash.
That’s human nature. A tenet of Star Trek that many fans tout is that we overcome fear in the future presented in the series.
Kinda ironic, isn’t it?
And yet, fear now reigns because of fan backlash.
There's legitimate reasons to believe that Picard will be bad considering the team behind it. If Kurtzman had stepped aside and delegated more creative control to an independent team it would be a different story. But as it is now, Picard (and really all spinoffs) feel like career lifeboat projects to get away from the wreckage of Discovery and hope that some new concept gains greater traction.
Pretty much, yes. It fascinates me on a deep and profound level that a fan base that asserts IDIC and optimism around human growth as its foundational components can still be so driven by fear of something different.That’s human nature. A tenet of Star Trek that many fans tout is that we overcome fear in the future presented in the series.
Kinda ironic, isn’t it?
Actually trek got better after Roddenberry stopped exerting as much control.
And yet, fear now reigns because of fan backlash.
If Discovery was a wreck, why was it renewed TWICE?There's legitimate reasons to believe that Picard will be bad considering the team behind it. If Kurtzman had stepped aside and delegated more creative control to an independent team it would be a different story. But as it is now, Picard (and really all spinoffs) feel like career lifeboat projects to get away from the wreckage of Discovery and hope that some new concept gains greater traction.
The trouble is, honestly, that Hollywood doesn't do small measures.Well, sadly, with the Internet fanbacklash reigns everywhere.
From Avengers:Endgame, to Star Wars, to the latest episode of Game of Thrones. The difficult part is to decide which parts of fan-reactions to adress, and which to ignore.
I've always been of the opinion that it should be adressed as cosmetic changes - but never dictate the gist of the story.
When they gave the Klingons hair and the D7, and the Enterprise the brightly colored uniforms in season 2, that was cosmetic changes. That was great! That was well done, didn't distract, and as a fan, I felt appreciated because the most common concerns were respectfully addressed, yet at the same time it felt like a natural progression of the universe itself. OTOH when they jumped to the far future, classified everything, or when they build-in a timetravel-reboot for ST09 to adress canon/continuity concerns - that was IMO unnecessary. The story didn't get any better for it. And to adress out-ot-universe stuff in-universe even hurt the illusion of the story at times.
So supposedly DSC is such a massive failure, that the only answer is tons more Trek?
If Discovery was a wreck, why was it renewed TWICE?
It is dangerous to use political logic with Hollywood decisions. Businesses are driven by money. Governments are not.The same reason the US stayed in Vietnam so long. Too heavily invested and their pride would take too much of a hit to suddenly back out.
Actually trek got better after Roddenberry stopped exerting as much control.
You're just spouting nonsense with no proof.Kurtzman courted Patrick Stewart right around the time of the original Discovery backlash. Stewart didn't want to do it until somehow he was given an offer he couldn't refuse, aka a lot of money and ex producer credit. My opinion is that Kurtzman wanted a Picard show in the hopes of pacifying long-term fans and take some of the heat off his team for the blowback. Same sort of pandering that went into bringing in Pike and Spock. This is, of course, off-topic from the lawsuit thread, but you want my logic--there it is.
The same reason the US stayed in Vietnam so long. Too heavily invested and their pride would take too much of a hit to suddenly back out.
I don’t think you understand how Hollywood works. If this was true, then Universal would still be pushing their Dark Universe cinematic universe. Instead it’s dead and they’re trying a different direction. It’s a business, it’s about making money not wasting money out of spite.Kurtzman courted Patrick Stewart right around the time of the original Discovery backlash. Stewart didn't want to do it until somehow he was given an offer he couldn't refuse, aka a lot of money and ex producer credit. My opinion is that Kurtzman wanted a Picard show in the hopes of pacifying long-term fans and take some of the heat off his team for the blowback. Same sort of pandering that went into bringing in Pike and Spock. This is, of course, off-topic from the lawsuit thread, but you want my logic--there it is.
The same reason the US stayed in Vietnam so long. Too heavily invested and their pride would take too much of a hit to suddenly back out.
If this were sound logic, Manimal would've been renewed for at least 2 more seasons, with at least 3 spin-off shows, amounting to Manimalmania.Kurtzman courted Patrick Stewart right around the time of the original Discovery backlash. Stewart didn't want to do it until somehow he was given an offer he couldn't refuse, aka a lot of money and ex producer credit. My opinion is that Kurtzman wanted a Picard show in the hopes of pacifying long-term fans and take some of the heat off his team for the blowback. Same sort of pandering that went into bringing in Pike and Spock. This is, of course, off-topic from the lawsuit thread, but you want my logic--there it is.
The same reason the US stayed in Vietnam so long. Too heavily invested and their pride would take too much of a hit to suddenly back out.
One of the reasons I'm so glad DSC is on CBSAA is because the show doesn't have to cater to the casual fan that gave TNG such great numbers. DSC is freer to pursue it's own identity without having the same burdens that network shows have on them with respect to appealing to a "broader" audience.Star Trek - at it's most popular points - is a very lighthearted and optimistic show. Not that it doesn't get dark repeatedly - but the overall universe is a more cheerfull one, a familiar reality people actually want to live in. (In contrast to, say, nuBattlestar Galactica, which has much, much more intense stories, but honestly no one in their right mind would want to live in).
For the record, Spock broke into one of the widest, toothiest, grins in all of Trek in Amok Time when he found out he hadn't actually killed Jim.It's the same thing with Spock - Over decades and decades, (mostly female) fans always wanted to see him smile, be happy! And yet - he never really did. That's why every single little smirk he did had such an impact. People craved for it. Whereas Quinto-Spock went very fast full emotional (because that's what people wanted to see for decades) - and yet, when he did, it didn't leave as much of an impact as it should.
And the Tron cinematic universe would be on it's 20th film by now. Some guy at Disney, Jeff Bridges and I would be the only people to pay to see them.If this were sound logic, Manimal would've been renewed for at least 2 more seasons, with at least 3 spin-off shows, amounting to Manimalmania.
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Remember Lawyers hate to loose, and when they do, they like to get vocal. As for the one court staff comment, sounds like a JA who floated in for a couple days and didn't like how she ran her room (which is why she's still floating and doesn't have a permanent assignment.)Well, it's now been a little over two months since the last memorandums were submitted to the Judge by both sides.
Either she is really, Really busy with other things or this case just isn't that important on her docket.
Addendum:
Grazing around the internetz I found this...
http://www.therobingroom.com/Judge.aspx?ID=2054
Seems a few lawyers don't have much respect for this particular Judge.
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One of the reasons I'm so glad DSC is on CBSAA is because the show doesn't have to cater to the casual fan that gave TNG such great numbers. DSC is freer to pursue it's own identity without having the same burdens that network shows have on them with respect to appealing to a "broader" audience.
In other words, they get to preach to the choir - no need to take Into consideration what makes stories good as stories - just shovel what a small number of presold viewers want to see.
This is one reason the show's writing is so lousy - they don't really need to compete for the time and money of people who have to be wooed by worthwhile content.
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