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Spoilers Captain Marvel - Grading & Discussion

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What's doubly weird about the record is that it's one that has been far exceeded by people for whom getting in GWR/GBOWR wasn't an objective. Usually the "pro" class for a record is one where you have people with greater "ability." In this case, it's inverted. I knew a guy who exceeded 116 times for Star Wars prior to 1980. It was quite easy to do when you're a kid and the movie had multiple releases, the first of which lasted over a year.

Congrats and all to the dude with no life, but yeah....
 
At least he's not arguing about some naff 50 year old TV show and its equally silly spin offs. Or maybe he is one of ours. He ought to be at that rate.
 
What's doubly weird about the record is that it's one that has been far exceeded by people for whom getting in GWR/GBOWR wasn't an objective. Usually the "pro" class for a record is one where you have people with greater "ability." In this case, it's inverted. I knew a guy who exceeded 116 times for Star Wars prior to 1980. It was quite easy to do when you're a kid and the movie had multiple releases, the first of which lasted over a year.

Congrats and all to the dude with no life, but yeah....

I'd guess that's pretty common with Guinness. The process of getting your name in there is mostly self-selected and neither free nor simple. Being stubborn and determined in your desire to get in there is more important than actually being the true world record holder. Half the time you see people inventing these 'records' primarily on the basis of what's so bizarrely unusual to do/keep track of specifically because they know that eliminates any potential competition for getting their name in the book. And the other half, you see people putting themselves forward in categories where they're objectively small-potatoes, but everyone else just doesn't care about the record.

For example, I've seen a lot of discussions about the 'record' for world's largest board game collection in gaming circles and pretty much everyone knows someone, often multiple someones, whose collection is hundreds or even thousands of games larger than the record holder. But none of those people ever contacted Guinness (often because they don't care, also often because they themselves know someone else with an even larger collection and so wouldn't want to 'claim' a record they don't deserve).
 
The good news: As of yesterday, Captain Marvel is in the top five of MCU earners, passing Iron Man 3 with $413 million.

The bad news: Thanks to Endgame's monster opening, that'll last for all of a week (at best).

The question is will Captain Marvel be able to earn another $46 million in order to pass Age of Ultron? Based on its rate of decay (and now with Endgame out), I'm thinking it'll just miss the mark.
 
Captain marvel has now made more money than wonder woman... a better reviewed, better received supposed pop culture phenomenon....

And then in comes obscure marvel character with mediocre reviews and... yeah. Marvel has this show on lockdown.
 
"Better reviewed?" According to whom? A lot of people also loved Captain Marvel. Why does it need to be a competition between the two films and instead of accepting both as enjoyable films that have pop culture significance?
Life is a competition. The box office, even more so.

Better reviewed by who? By the people that get paid to review movies, obviously.
 
I voted A.
It was a slow start that paid off which justified the slow start to me.

There were so many callbacks to the books that I enjoyed, minor things, but they were good. Having the Kree Yon-Rogg, Minn-Erva, and Att-Las, among them. I also loved that Project Pegasus was mentioned and it was the same facility that SHIELD was operating in the first Avengers movie.
Coulson was in it less than I'd hoped but he was pivotal.
I also was happy that we had that much Fury.
People have said the MCU rests on RDJ but Sam Jackson is certainly holding up his end. I though that really big Skrull that Vers couldn't beat so easily might have been Super Skrull.

I liked seeing the civilian non conquering Skrulls. While the Skrulls have been antagonists at many times they were never monolithic "bad guys" with certain ones just wanting to live in peace. The Kree started the war in the books with their aggressive nature, the Skrulls became warlike in response.

I was really scared for Maria when Monica's grandparents came to watch her, I thought she might not be coming back, I was relieved when she was ok.

This movie filled in cracks that I didn't even know I wanted filled in and opened doors to other future things I hope to see.


Carol's friend, Maria Rambeau, is not the character who became Capt. Marvel in the comics, that's her daughter, Monica.

I noticed Maria's call sign was Photon, (on the side of her plane) which is one of Monica's later non Captain Marvel super names.

The Rambeau who is the Superhero is her daughter, the little girl seen. She'll be in her 30s when we see her in the present.


The Zemo who killed Bucky (sort of) was Heinrich Zemo, the one seen in the movie was his son Helmut who was the second one in the comics. He was more morally ambiguous.

He also is the Zemo with the Thunderbolts.

Captain Marvel showed up in Avengers and became the chairman, ie the elected leader, of the Avengers and she was in charge when the Avengers were sent to arrest Magneto for his many crimes against humanity. That was the first Avengers vs. X-men crossover. Later, the Masters of Evil, under Zemo the second, defeated the Avengers, Captain Marvel being the most powerful was his greatest concern until he used Blackout to envelope her in dark force and actually put her in the dimension it comes from where she only just barely managed to survive by emerging out of The Shroud's darkforce powers. She was emaciated and in a coma but healed up and started to exhibit powers again but not the same and called her self Photon although she had since taken a job as a port authority police officer in Louisiana. I'm really hoping we get an adult Photon with Monica. With Cassie Lang from Ant-Man, Marvel seems to be doing some live action ground work for future origin stories. While Monica was Captain Marvel, the former Ms. Marvel, Carol Danvers, was out in space as Binary, so I could see Monica not being Captain Marvel in this version because she was the only one at the time in the books. I'd still love to see Photon as an Avenger in future movies.

They probably could have made it a bit clearer that the post credits scene with Goose spitting out the Tesseract had jumped back in time to right after the main part of the movie. My mom thought it was after the Endgame scene, and it was a bit jarring to go back and forth in time like that.

No offense to your mom but it was the exact same desk with the exact same name plate and furniture, I'd be hard pressed not to think it was shortly thereafter the main movie. I just think they threw it on there as a joke, my wife asked why it was important for us to wait an extra 8 minutes to watch a cat puke. I didn't have a good answer.

Maybe it wasn’t made for you and that’s why it’s not connecting.

Why does a movie have to be made for "someone" This is a very disturbing worldview proclaiming exclusivity and against inclusivness. Why should a person feel alienated by a movie. 'You should not enjoy it because it isn't for you' sounds very prejudicial, even bigoted.

Having said that, has anyone explained why this light speed engine thingy is a big deal in a universe that clearly has tons of FTL tech?

I think it's simpler than the very good explanations already given. I think she was building a Millennium Falcon.
 
Why does a movie have to be made for "someone" This is a very disturbing worldview proclaiming exclusivity and against inclusivness. Why should a person feel alienated by a movie. 'You should not enjoy it because it isn't for you' sounds very prejudicial, even bigoted.
Movies have been made exclusively for white men forever, now it’s suddenly a problem when movies are made for other kinds of people. No one is saying you can’t enjoy it, everyone else found a way to enjoy movies before when they weren’t made for them. You can too, it’s not hard. I never get to see movies with people like me and I enjoy lots of things. So I really can’t even wrap my head around that “complaint”.
 
I did enjoy the movie, I vote A as I just said.

Prejudice does not explain everything unless that's all you know, then it's the cause of everything.


BTW, I forgot to mention even after Endgame has been out, at my theater when we went to buy tickets it was sold out for the 6:50Pm show so I don't think Captain Marvel is going to stop too soon.
 
You know that if anyone but them gains a little bit of power, they all start dying Tinkerbell style. Or you'd think so, given the reaction.
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Captain marvel has now made more money than wonder woman... a better reviewed, better received supposed pop culture phenomenon....

And then in comes obscure marvel character with mediocre reviews and... yeah. Marvel has this show on lockdown.
You have a film that is billed and marketed as integral to a 10 year franchise, and another film that is connected one other film. Are you really comparing the two? Whether one is "Better" or the other "Made more money" shouldn't be the topic. Did you like either film, and why?
 
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