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CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till release

Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

"SupRSolgR1" in his screen name.
 
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fucking blu ray.

i never got the wings. they look stupid, they serve no purpose and seriously, why the fuck does he have little wings? how are they emblematic of America?!
Our national bird is the eagle. Thor's helmet has wings and does the Flash. What purpose do they serve? And why does something thats pure decoration need a purpose?

well not the Flash that's most likely to get his own movie he has lightning bolts on his head.

What do the people behind the Ultimate U have against wings on Cap's cowl?

Because the Ultimate universe is suppost to have updated versions of Marvel heros and this is how they decided to do Cap, much like how Earth One Superman isn't going to have the trunks.

A beaker full of death;4280411 said:
Also farther away from being identified with
America.

Erm, his costume is still pretty unmistakeably American; it's just more realistic.

If the character is intended to be a WWII Symbol of America, I think it more realistic that he'd be wearing the Stripes on his uniform instead of red Suspenders, and he'd at least have the wings painted along the sides of his army-style helmet. Purely decorative, yes, but so are most symbols.

I think the government's propaganda department wouldn't have hesitated to make it as flashy as possible, rendering "Captain America" as a literal flag in the shape of a man, with the wings to top it off.



That's probably what their doing with what he's wearing in the USO shows in thre movie before he is going to fight in an actual war wich would require something a little more practical then US flag colored spandex. Plus this is what he's wearing in World War II, he could be wearing something different in Avengers.

it's more of a question for CA2 - how well will that do if it's set in 2016 with him running around Iraq freeing hostage aid-workers and battling crazed villains in Korea or something?

Maybe he can become a self-hating American that blames America for everything bad that happens to America and spends all his time bitching and moaning on the comment sections of news websites. :)

Nah he only has problems if certain laws are passed that restrict the freedoms of people at which point he assults other superheros who are assholes to these people when they enforce said laws.

A beaker full of death said:
Also farther away from being identified with America.

More like getting farther away from being identified with the crappy 90s movie.
 
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Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

fucking blu ray.

i never got the wings. they look stupid, they serve no purpose and seriously, why the fuck does he have little wings? how are they emblematic of America?!
Our national bird is the eagle. Thor's helmet has wings and does the Flash. What purpose do they serve? And why does something thats pure decoration need a purpose?

well not the Flash that's most likely to get his own movie he has lightning bolts on his head.



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Look again Barry. Wally and Jay all have stylized wings on their masks or helmet. Barry and Wally's wings are more "modern" like a late 50s/early60s hood ornement, but are still wings.

Here's Barry (the most likely movie Flash) from a recent issue of the Flash:

FlashWithWings.jpg
 
Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

Hate to break it to you beaker but there's a new Earth One in the works.
 
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Hate to break it to you beaker but there's a new Earth One in the works.

Oh... CRAP.
Did they really have to go do that to me?
I take it that the new Earth-1 is not the old Earth-1 that I miss so terribly.
Was this their way of retconning yet again? Is the Byrne version I never cared for passe?
Starting to think I should take another 20 years off...
 
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Hate to break it to you beaker but there's a new Earth One in the works.

Oh... CRAP.
Did they really have to go do that to me?
I take it that the new Earth-1 is not the old Earth-1 that I miss so terribly.
Was this their way of retconning yet again? Is the Byrne version I never cared for passe?
Starting to think I should take another 20 years off...
Nah, this is giving "big name writers" their own playgrounds to do their takes on classic characters. In Superman's case its J. Michael Straczynski. Its a "graphic novel" and has no relationship or impact on the current Superman adventures in Superman and Action Comics. (Though JMS is currently writing Superman.) Here's the wiki rundown My theory is the "One" will refer to fact that Superman is the only hero in this Universe. There is also a "Batman Earth One" graphic novel that will produced by Geoff Johns and Gary Frank.

Yeah the Byrne Superman is no more, well sort of. Currently Superman is a blend of the Silver Age version and the Byrne one. So Luthor is a wealthy businessman and a childhood friend of Superman's gone bad. Also, Superman started his career as boy and was a member of the Legion of Super Heroes.

Unless something has changed he will be sporting the trunks:

superman_earthone.jpg



Someone might be confusing Superman with Batman as the Earth One version of Batman does not have trunks:

1053931-new_batman_earth_one_super.jpg

And ironically, without the trunks it looks like Batman is wearing gray longjohns. Not too keen on the color scheme either, very bland.
 
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More important than the costume is the period aspect.

Captain America was supposed to represent the USA during WWII. This is when notions of brotherhood and opposition to bigotry became more respectable, while they were previously Communistic notions respectable people didn't have much truck with. Captain America, supposedly the Steve Rogers who grew up in the Great Depression and wanted to fight Nazis, would have been a New Dealer. And Bucky Barnes might have been a yipsel! (Young People's Socialist League for the younger set.)

The problem with Captain America as a hero is that modern makers will put into the comics or the movie current ideas of what the country wants to be about. Since that seems to be endless war against Muslims, none of it seems very appetizing. Not only have people decided the Sixties (when civil rights came in, and women's and gay liberation became acceptable,) were horrible setbacks, they're busy undoing the New Deal.

Cap is obsolete.
 
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Where do you come up with this stuff?
 
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My theory is the "One" will refer to fact that Superman is the only hero in this Universe.

Doubtful since all the Earth One titles will be set in the same universe like Ultimate Marvel.

Also on the Superman trunks thing, didn't they release some art work showing Earth One Superman didn't have the trunks. I guess they changed their minds.
 
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My theory is the "One" will refer to fact that Superman is the only hero in this Universe.

Doubtful since all the Earth One titles will be set in the same universe like Ultimate Marvel.

Also on the Superman trunks thing, didn't they release some art work showing Earth One Superman didn't have the trunks. I guess they changed their minds.
The Shane Davis pic is from the original press release way back in December.
 
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Captain America is obsolete? Sigh. All superheroes then must be obsolete. I get tired of reading this line of thinking...if Captain America is obsolete then I must be happily reading some kind of "archival" material over the past few years because imo he's never been better. I don't consider myself a long time Captain America fan but I know a basic running knowledge of his past. I'm loving the Brubaker stuff and Bucky Cap.

I can't wait for the Earth One books...especially Batman Earth One.
 
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Hmm. I don't get the artist's attitude about the classic suit and tie.
I'm also none too impressed with his work. That right arm looks like it was stapled on at an impossible angle, and the leg is popping out of his belly, Aliens-style. Not loving the costume either. What's with the steeplechase patches? Does Superman get thigh burns? And he changed the classic boots.
I kinda dig the change to the cape's "S" - it's like the old George Reeves version.
Yeah the Byrne Superman is no more, well sort of. Currently Superman is a blend of the Silver Age version and the Byrne one. So Luthor is a wealthy businessman and a childhood friend of Superman's gone bad. Also, Superman started his career as boy and was a member of the Legion of Super Heroes.

And yet the 1986 Crisis was brought on because people found the old multiverse too confusing. Oy.

And ironically, without the trunks it looks like Batman is wearing gray longjohns. Not too keen on the color scheme either, very bland.

I'm glad the yellow oval is back, though not digging the George Clooneyesque raised border. In fact, the whole suit looks like the Clooney version. Bring on the nipples!
 
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I believe that i do have a separate thread from when these were announced last year for discussion of the two Earth One books.
 
Re: CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till rele

I believe that i do have a separate thread from when these were announced last year for discussion of the two Earth One books.
Which would be a better place to discuss Superman so as to not further derail talk of the upcoming Captain America. :techman:

Did I find the right thread?
 
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Should we contact Herbert West?
 
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BBC News has learned some of the filming locations for Joe Johnston's Captain America: The First Avenger (some spoilers ahead):

America's First Avenger will battle his foes on the streets of Manchester and Liverpool during filming on the big-budget superhero film.

Manchester's Northern Quarter is to be transformed into 1940s New York for a dramatic car chase in Captain America: The First Avenger.

Producers chose the Northern Quarter to recreate New York because of its towering buildings and pre-war architecture.

The location was organised through the Vision+Media film office, based at Mediacity in Salford Quays, which brought the big budget production of Sherlock Holmes to Manchester and Liverpool.

Susan Williams, drama liaison manager, said the company was approached by the studio, which is also behind the successful Spider Man and Hulk films, in February.

"We suggested the area to Marvel as its wide streets, towering buildings and pre-war architecture will make the perfect 1940s New York."

Residents, local businesses and Manchester City Council have all been consulted about the production, which will last about two weeks from mid September.

Details of scenes due to be filmed at Liverpool's Stanley Dock are yet to be finalised.
 
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