Spoilers Captain America: Civil War - Grading & Discussion
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Three unwritten rules of movie fight scenes:
1. You can't kill someone by choking them.
2. You can't kill someone with blunt force trauma (unless you drop them off a building or crush them with a falling pillar or something).
3. That which doesn't kill you will probably have no lasting effects at all. (War Machine seems to be a very rare exception on this point.)
I don't think Hydra kept EVERY single mission of theirs on file on SHIELD servers. I think high level assassinations like that were probably off the books.
In the case of the artist formerly known as Iron Patriot, they could just give him Extremis. It's not like Civil War pretends all-encompassingly that Iron Man 3 didn't happen, since it mentions Tony destroying the suits. It just acts as if the Extremis part didn't happen. Much like the Star Trek Abramsverse, which will probably go forward pretending that magic Khan blood is not a thing.
It's just unfortunate that these franchises felt the need to introduce plot points which allow for those who escape death ( and even some who don't ) to have no lasting physical damage, only to run away from them afterwards. Where was the foresight?
Living in the moment is overrated.
I thought Hydra/Centipede fixed the explosive factor but the regeneration was lost with the fix., For a bit player in the future of the franchise a wounded in action disabled Col. Rhodes/War Machine allows for more dramatic possibilities than a miracle cure another guy in a suit.
I'm not sure why everyone's convinced he needs a miracle cure to stay War Machine. In universe time, it will be years before we see him again anyway, and the end of this movie already shows him relearning to walk. I wouldn't be shocked if they just said that he recovered over time (at least enough to be able to put the suit on again). Not that that would be massively realistic, but it would be par for the course when it comes to Hollywood action.
Further, I would think Tony would be able to develop technology to allow Rhodey to walk, even out of the suit.
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And that is why Tony is so down. His cure was only temporary an she blew to bits later, and she was not in AOU because she was undergoing treatment for that which field and she was left in pieces. Tony transferred her memories to an LMD before she died and that's why she dumped him. Will make people hate Tony even more
I was under the impression that Tony saying he'd "fix" Pepper's extremis situation meant that he'd removed or otherwise nullified it, not perfected it so it actually works as intended and people don't blow up anymore. If so then it's not a viable cure for Rhodes. Come to think of it, given his personal experience with people on the stuff I don't think he would he want it anywhere near him, even if Tony assured him it works.
Personally, I'd prefer if his disability is a permanent thing and not magically fixed somehow. As someone already pointed out the suit is already a functioning prosthesis and Tony demonstrated direct neural interface technology right at the start of this movie. He can still be War Machine but otherwise confined to a wheelchair, or more likely that ex-frame and maybe a cane.
A disabled superhero is hardly unprecedented and people have been saying the Marvel movies have been slacking on the diversity representation front for a while.
Personally, I'd prefer if his disability is a permanent thing and not magically fixed somehow. As someone already pointed out the suit is already a functioning prosthesis and Tony demonstrated direct neural interface technology right at the start of this movie. He can still be War Machine but otherwise confined to a wheelchair, or more likely that ex-frame and maybe a cane.
A disabled superhero is hardly unprecedented and people have been saying the Marvel movies have been slacking on the diversity representation front for a while.
I would prefer it if they respected the end of this movie with regards to Rhodey. His injury provides far more dramatic possibilities than simply curing him would.
No, it wouldn't. Replacing him with Don Cheadle was one of Marvel's best ideas. 
I just saw this movie yesterday so I'm not going to read the previous pages.
But I thought it was one of the best Marvel movies yet. It used a number of characters but it was still a Captain America movie. It didn't give a clear resolution. Both Tony and Steve had good points. And the final fight between them left no clear hero to root for. They were both being played.This is unprecedented in Marvel films.
I loved T'Challa's role in the movie. He was definitely the stand out, the actor as well as the character. I am eagerly waiting for his solo film.
I also liked how the arguments for or against hero registration were laid out. There was clearly no right or wrong answer. In the comic book story, the registration act left Tony on the wrong side because he did not consider the details of what he was agreeing to, but in the movie context his motivations were much more forgivable.
And for the first time in several years, I did not see where the movie was going.
Well done all around.
PS. Now I will spend the next few weeks reading through this thread to find out why my opinion is wrong.
But I thought it was one of the best Marvel movies yet. It used a number of characters but it was still a Captain America movie. It didn't give a clear resolution. Both Tony and Steve had good points. And the final fight between them left no clear hero to root for. They were both being played.This is unprecedented in Marvel films.
I loved T'Challa's role in the movie. He was definitely the stand out, the actor as well as the character. I am eagerly waiting for his solo film.
I also liked how the arguments for or against hero registration were laid out. There was clearly no right or wrong answer. In the comic book story, the registration act left Tony on the wrong side because he did not consider the details of what he was agreeing to, but in the movie context his motivations were much more forgivable.
And for the first time in several years, I did not see where the movie was going.
Well done all around.
PS. Now I will spend the next few weeks reading through this thread to find out why my opinion is wrong.
I just saw this movie yesterday so I'm not going to read the previous pages.
But I thought it was one of the best Marvel movies yet. It used a number of characters but it was still a Captain America movie. It didn't give a clear resolution. Both Tony and Steve had good points. And the final fight between them left no clear hero to root for. They were both being played.This is unprecedented in Marvel films.
I loved T'Challa's role in the movie. He was definitely the stand out, the actor as well as the character. I am eagerly waiting for his solo film.
I also liked how the arguments for or against hero registration were laid out. There was clearly no right or wrong answer. In the comic book story, the registration act left Tony on the wrong side because he did not consider the details of what he was agreeing to, but in the movie context his motivations were much more forgivable.
And for the first time in several years, I did not see where the movie was going.
Well done all around.
PS. Now I will spend the next few weeks reading through this thread to find out why my opinion is wrong.
I don't think you're wrong.
It's been awhile since I saw it but IIRC this was part of Tony's tongue in cheek reply to a Senate Committee about why he wasn't, in part, going to relinquish the suit. He needed it to survive with the chest implant.
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