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Spoilers Captain America: Civil War - Grading & Discussion

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Yes. Yes it did.

Of course, we all know that when you super speed read your comprehension suffers.

Or does it? I can't remember.

Ask Quicksilver. Oh wait, he's dead. Or in another universe. Or something.
 
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Just got out from seeing it. One word takeaway?

Boring.

Longer? It was yet another Marvel Studios movie. Same tired focus group tested quips and humor, same tired action as well as Marvel Studios trademarked complete and total inability to craft a movie with even the remotest hint of a sense of tension or threat. At no time, during any battle, did I experience even the slightest bit of tension. Zemo was such a non-entity in this film that I completely forgot Cap was getting his team to go after him, and instead thought he was gearing up to fight Tony until someone mentioned Zemo to, I think, Ant-Man.

And all that damage at the airport only helped make the governments case for them. The first time a car was smashed, a plane wing broken off they should've ALL been like "Whoa! This is pretty much what the government was talking about! We are just busting shit up with out even bothering to try and not do it."

Spidey? Major let down. Peter Parker is a hard luck character, not an adorkably cute nerd who says stupid shit like "You've got a bionic arm? Awwwesssome!" He'd make a wisecrack, not sound like a fanboy. His Spidey quips sucked as well, with only maybe one or two sounding spot on. But it's hard to give this incarnation a unique voice when you've got an entire universe full of quippy, jokey heroes and your competitor (Deadpool) has not only done Spidey's quips more accurately, but went and added adult humor to some of them taking it up to 11. To be fair, no movie Spidey has really excelled in this area and Deadpool pretty much made that job 100 times harder.

It also didn't help that Civil War was remarkably similar in beats to BvS, which, along with Marvel Studios increasingly stale, formulaic approach to their films, just made this film completely unremarkable. Black Panther and the FX quality were pretty much the only reason I scored the movie at a C.

The new car smell and the "OMG! I can't believe I'm seeing (fill in the blank Marvel superhero) on a movie screen!!" wore off for me about six films back. The addition of the most comic book like universe appearing on our t.v. screens three (and soon to be four) nights a week for free isn't helping. I'm still pretty excited for Doctor Strange because he's one of my favorite Marvel characters and I'm curious to see how they handle magic. I enjoyed Black Panther in this film the most, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the character. Beyond that? Not excited for anything coming out of Marvel Studios.

November can't get here soon enough, though.
 
I forget, did the blue vials in the back of Howard Stark's car ever get explained? Was that set up for a future movie?
 
I forget, did the blue vials in the back of Howard Stark's car ever get explained? Was that set up for a future movie?
It was likely the experimental super soldier serum. Given the effects it had on the other Winter Soldiers in the Russian gulag. Howard was said to have been working on it in Agent Carter and Iron Man 2, I believe. Also, recall that General Ross had Blonsky injected with the serum back in The Incredible Hulk. Enhanced abilities, increased aggression and mental instability were all symptoms Blonsky and the Russian Winter Soldiers had.
 
Did the movie specifically explain it though? I don't remember. Was it that scene where they showed the other Winter Soldiers going nuts in the gulag maybe?
 
Did the movie specifically explain it though? I don't remember. Was it that scene where they showed the other Winter Soldiers going nuts in the gulag maybe?
No the movie did not explicitly or implicitly state what the blue stuff was.
 
It didn't explain exactly what the stuff was, but it showed Hydra giving it to those soldiers at their base, and then in the next scene all of those soldiers are uber-strong, aggressive badasses. So yeah, it was likely another attempt at replicating Abraham Erskine's Super-Soldier Serum.
 
No the movie did not explicitly or implicitly state what the blue stuff was.
Only seen it once but I don't think that's accurate. At the very least it was certainly implied. It was played as a reveal when they opened the case (anyone who's seen the first Captain America movie to which this was a sequel would recognize it by its color, not to mention The Incredible Hulk or Agent Carter or Iron Man 2 as you did above) and there might even have been a line in there somewhere, plus as @Skywalker says above we saw what it did for those to whom it was administered.
 
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It didn't explain exactly what the stuff was, but it showed Hydra giving it to those soldiers at their base, and then in the next scene all of those soldiers are uber-strong, aggressive badasses. So yeah, it was likely another attempt at replicating Abraham Erskine's Super-Soldier Serum.

This. Also, without going back to check for sure, I'd be willing to bet it's the same stuff Ross gave to Emil Blonsky all the way back in The Incredible Hulk. It certainly seemed to have a similar effect on the wannabe-Winter Soldiers.
 
Brawndo! It has electrolytes.



I'm wondering if Howard and Mrs. Stark were just collateral damage in getting the serum or the serum was just a cover reason for the assassination, or one of two birds with one hit.
 
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