CANCELLED

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by Mooch, Feb 2, 2005.

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  1. Enterpriser

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    This is beyond personal for me.

    As time passes, I find myself becoming angrier and angrier -- not at anyone, but at the fact that it had to come to this: Cancellation.

    What does this represent? A general failure! A general failure of perception. The stars were not in position, as they say.

    The post-mortems will be performed.

    I have my faith in Trek to guide me. I know that somewhere along the line, there is a great hope that it will live again in television and movies, and that in some sense, as I just said, it continues to live.

    But it's not quite the same.

    Why did it come to this?

    Blame does not become us.

    But perhaps anger will spur us to action -- constructive action -- that will ensure that the future we all want... ironically... is in the cards.
     
  2. pookha

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    Battlestar had something going for it that enterprise didnt.
    It was on a network that really did believe in putting out commercials for it's shows.
    It just saturated cable tv before the start of the friday night line up while about the only time you ever see enterprise advertised was within the show itself.

    There were people who had no clue the show had moved to friday night till i told them about it.

    and i had a bad feeling when it went through that long break and there was almost no ads letting people know that new episodes were on.

    Tis a pity.. more and more people who had disliked it in the past were starting to like it..something that has been evident in a lot of comments here recently.

    to bad upn didnt have the sense to capitalize on that good word of mouth.

    and even though i have seen kevin hill some i doutbt i will be looking in on upn for a long time to come.
     
  3. Guest

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    all right, ill chill out. its tough though , i mean i am hurt, angry, and do want to post that analysis. i will not do it, but this is annoying.
     
  4. Brent

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    yeah

    if they had only been given another chance, a 5th season, and advertised more, i really think viewers would have picked back up

    the 4th season was the best yet, it really needed another chance for another season
     
  5. ImperialCaptainBat

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    Let history never forget the name...Enterprise!
     
  6. Guest

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    i think les mooneves knew from storm front part one that this was it
     
  7. Slider

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    Hi.

    PhantomOfTheNet here.

    I would like to say just a few words for the younger ones who are grieving here.

    I've been a Trek fan since I was six or seven, when one night I turned on the TV and ended up watching this amazing show about the people on a starship who were struggling to battle an unstoppable planet killing "Doomsday Machine." From that moment in the 1960's, I was hooked.

    Then Trek went away (I didn't understand why at the time, being very young) but it started coming on in re-runs. And for a long, long, time, more than a decade, that's all there was.

    What I'm trying to say is, to sorta-quote Mr. Spock, "Trek has been "dead" before." It was a much darker time, then, too...because after TOS was cancelled no one had the slightest idea that Trek could ever be marketable. We who were fans then kept coming to conventions, endured those who mocked us...and we believed , against all odds, that someday, somehow, we'd get our Star Trek back.

    But I would also like to tell you how it came back. Two words. "Star Wars." That movie proved to TPTB that there was a market for sci-fi...and thus it was that Paramount dusted off the Enterprise and we got our Trek back. In spades.

    Now why am I telling you this? Two reasons, actually. One, that whether or not you liked Enterprise (I didn't, not for a while, but the current season started making me a real fan again, and I wish nothing for the best for Mr. Coto and the winners on the writing staff, and hope Berman and Braga, where the blame truly lies, end up writing TV commercials for used cat litter for a small ad agency somewhere in the most hellish part of Compton)...anyway, it's important that you still believe that Trek has a future...and secondly, it's important, more important than ever, that you support any sci-fi that remains on TV and theaters...because when you come down to it, if there's a market for sci-fi, there will be a market for Trek...and if shows like Stargate and BSG get the ratings, or if future series or movies become ultra-mega-hits, then that, like Star Wars, will pave the way for Trek's return.

    Hope this makes some of ya feel better. I now go off to join the Rodney-King-like verbal beating of Berman and Braga.

    And to the cast and crew...good luck!
     
  8. Guest

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    hi. what especially perturbs me is that enterprise was improving this season. now most of the trekkers probably felt for instance the way tpol was portrayed last year was riduculous, i didnt.

    i hate moonves for not caring about the fans, but worse manny coto finally made enterprise feel like a prequel and this is what we get . i seriously hate moonves guts . i mean granted there is other science fiction out there that is thought provoking but to have enterprise ended is hurtful.

    i of course pride myself on being a rational human being but right now i am livid, and while i knew this was coming i hate the man who basically pulled the plug
     
  9. Storm Rucker

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    There's only so long they can keep recycling the same old crap from the same old hacks and call it science fiction - I mean come on.

    Trek stopped breaking new ground in the 1960s. TNG never went out on a limb dramatically or intellectually. What followed after that was even worse.

    What they need is a little time off, and some new blood who have some idea of what drama and writing are, much less how to make a TV show in the 21st Century, not the same old 1960 formula.

    That's my thought.
     
  10. LavianoTS386

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    You know something I don't think Roddenberry would care. He'd just hit his "fuck it" switch and move on. That's what I am going to do.
     
  11. Guest

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    well i right now plan to get a array of darts right now and throw them at a poster of les mooneves
     
  12. emily_reich

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    ok, i have only three comments to make on this :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream:

    1. there goes my good day!! :scream:

    2. they'd BETTER make either a movie or the best trek finale EVER!!!! :scream:

    3. I HATE UPN :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream:
     
  13. Brent

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    Very Well Said
     
  14. Katatak47

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    Well, this has just knocked the wind outta my sails!! A crap ending to a crap day. :(

    I'm so pissed at UPN and Paramount right now I'm liable to stop watching ALL their shows.

    On the bright side - as Nimoy said and the above poster quoted, "Trek's been dead before". It has and it *has* come back eventually. We can only hope.

    Sigh.
     
  15. Rene Picard

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    I'm very very disheartened, and as it sinks in, it dawns on me that I'm crushed.

    I love Star Trek, and this is very likely the death knell. Ow, ow, owwwww.... But for now, let me focus only on Enterprise, which I have grown to love. I will miss the show and the cast terribly.

    Thank you Scott Bakula, Jolene Blalock, Connor Trinneer, Dominic Keating, Anthony Montgomery, Linda Park, John Billingsley, Jeffrey Combs, Vaughn Armstrong, and Gary Graham. You brought your characters to life superbly. Thank you to the writers and the crew, for presenting stories that were entertaining and occasionally brilliant. Thank you Mr. Coto for a truly engrossing season.

    Too unhappy to write a lengthy epitaph. Just sad--and grateful for what I got.

    I'll always be a Trekker.
     
  16. FSULawJM

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    Just want to register my sadness as well.

    Maybe all is not yet lost.

    -jm
     
  17. Storm Rucker

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    The worst sin of Enterprise was it was set in such a Nerf world.

    There were no consequences for actions. No chance of any of the regular crew to die. No permanent effects from anything. No dirt on their knees and no character growth.

    That was fine in the 1960s, but even TOS grew up in the 1980s and dealt with long-term consequences and more realism in character development.

    Enterprise? It ultimately was a show aimed at kiddies - pure pulp, with no real substance, and a patina of shallow philosophy to put a shine on it.

    Is anyone really surprised it dies pretty much unmourned?
     
  18. mattie

    mattie Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    That's exactly how I felt hearing the news.
     
  19. Kevin Thomas Riley

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    For me this is the death of Star Trek. We will not see a new series or a new movie in the foreseeable future. Maybe, maybe in ten or twenty years but that's so far off in the future for me to care.

    But this is also the death of the specific show that's called Star Trek: Enterprise. I've come to love it and its characters (well almost everyone ;)). And even the extremely remote possibility of a new Trek in the far future does not make me feel better because eventually it will not be about the intrepid crew of the NX-01 and their involvement in the Romulan War and the birth of the Federation and all the other tons of adventures that could've told about them had the show lasted seven seasons.
     
  20. Brent

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    I'm not suprised, i'm just sad that it wasn't given just one more chance considering the fourth season has been so good
     
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