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Can JJ save Trek with Star Trek XII?

Can he save Trek from its simplistic-plot rut?

I'm not agreeing that Star Trek needs to be saved from anything at this point. But it will be interesting to see what he does with XII. Looking at his track record from Mission Impossible through Alias through LOST and Fringe, he has done many things right and wrong, but few would accuse him of simple plotting.
 
I read an article on Trekmovie some time ago about doing Trek XII and having "the unknown" be the antagonist instead of a main villain. Im trying to find the article atm to get a better read on it, but I think that could work very very well if they decide to go that route. It would be interesting to see how the characters react in a "Corbomite Maneuver" like scenario.

Agreed. TOS had plenty of threats that weren't just some angry guy with a vendetta.

You could have a survival story, or a mystery involving one character's past, or have the crew tested by some alien entity, or deal with some giant space creature...

Although I had to admit, if they could come up with a Kor-style Klingon to spar with Kirk, that would be fun to watch too. I've always LOVED the duel those two had in Errand of Mercy, and would love to see that kind of thing in a movie.
 
I read an article on Trekmovie some time ago about doing Trek XII and having "the unknown" be the antagonist instead of a main villain. Im trying to find the article atm to get a better read on it, but I think that could work very very well if they decide to go that route. It would be interesting to see how the characters react in a "Corbomite Maneuver" like scenario.

Agreed. TOS had plenty of threats that weren't just some angry guy with a vendetta.

You could have a survival story, or a mystery involving one character's past, or have the crew tested by some alien entity, or deal with some giant space creature...

Although I had to admit, if they could come up with a Kor-style Klingon to spar with Kirk, that would be fun to watch too. I've always LOVED the duel those two had in Errand of Mercy, and would love to see that kind of thing in a movie.

Plus if they do do a recasted version of TOS Battlestar Galactica they'll know who to cast as Baltar.
 
Can he save Trek from its simplistic-plot rut?
Now, if JJ wants to be bold, he should take a page from the Serenity playbook, and blur the lines between good & evil in the next movie as much as possible.

Yea, that idea worked so well for Serenity. Oh yea, that movie BOMBED. People like to see a bad guy. They want to know they are routing for a cause. Blurring those lines makes people not want to watch, thus they dont pay 10, or by the time the sequel hits theaters, 11-12 bucks a ticket.
 
JJ Abrahams take on the Star Trek myhos has made a hash of the future of Star Trek and its spin-off's ie. DS9, STTNG and Voyager. Because of this new film, stories in the original series never happend because Spocks mother was alive in the original series but killed in this new film. in the original series planet vulcan was never blown-up, this film has started a completely different time-line which has made the future history of Star Trek obsolite. There is now no continuity in Star Trek it just does'nt add-up anymore. Thanks JJ for turning my favorite Star Trek show up-side-down and inside-out. Bas**ard. :brickwall::brickwall::brickwall:

Now boarding the Epic Fail Train!
 
Can he save Trek from its simplistic-plot rut?
Now, if JJ wants to be bold, he should take a page from the Serenity playbook, and blur the lines between good & evil in the next movie as much as possible.

Yea, that idea worked so well for Serenity. Oh yea, that movie BOMBED. People like to see a bad guy. They want to know they are routing for a cause. Blurring those lines makes people not want to watch, thus they dont pay 10, or by the time the sequel hits theaters, 11-12 bucks a ticket.

I don't think "blurring the lines" was the big reason Serenity failed financially. But this is a discussion for another thread.

Besides, for someone like me who has read the Countdown comics before seeing the movie, Nero was hardly a black & white evil bad guy.
Of course even though the comics sold out I doubt the general public was that much aware of them...
 
He needs to make something for the over 15 crowd. The film was very juvenile, and there was precious little meat on that bone to really think about. One of the reasons ST II holds up so well is it was very adult themed overall, and action on top of that just made it even better. I want something more than just a shoot-em-up and another ridiculous baddie who has to get blown up.
 
A very good script might draw him back to the directors chair just as a very good script drew him back to act.

As much as I absolutely love III and IV, I have to admit Nimoy's classic and elegant style of directing probably wouldn't work today.

People are used to a much edgier and more visually dynamic style now, which was what Abrams was able to bring to it. Plus I think it's just what Trek needs right now to stay relevant.
 
The average audience today has the attention span of a goldfish and the intellectual capacity of a bacterium. To keep them interested you need explosions, Lens Flares™, cheesy throwaway oneliners, comic relief characters, product placements, contemporary music, and "badass" villains. For a summer movie (with the exception of comedies and kids movies) to be successful, it must contain at least 3 of these things. Now Star Trek has been relegated to the realm of big summer movies, it's inevitable that all of these things will return in the next instalment, which will probably make for a mildly-enjoyable action movie with little substance at best unless a miracle happens.
 
A very good script might draw him back to the directors chair just as a very good script drew him back to act.

As much as I absolutely love III and IV, I have to admit Nimoy's classic and elegant style of directing probably wouldn't work today.

People are used to a much edgier and more visually dynamic style now, which was what Abrams was able to bring to it. Plus I think it's just what Trek needs right now to stay relevant.

I could see him writing the script though, and I think he would be good to have around to maybe advise on how to best keep that balance between something that still feels like classic Trek but still manages to remain appealing to the kids.
 
A very good script might draw him back to the directors chair just as a very good script drew him back to act.

As much as I absolutely love III and IV, I have to admit Nimoy's classic and elegant style of directing probably wouldn't work today.

People are used to a much edgier and more visually dynamic style now, which was what Abrams was able to bring to it. Plus I think it's just what Trek needs right now to stay relevant.


I disagree. Good directing is good directing. Well made films from the 1940's are still fantastic to watch. People are used to the modern style because they see it all the time. It does not mean that other styles would not play.
 
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