Can JJ save Trek with Star Trek XII?

[plynch]

Since Star Trek II, the movies have had an overall plot of defeat-the-bad-guy with a lot of explosions along the way (ST IV an obvious exception). That was my main disappointment with ST XI - I've seen this plot/style before. A bunch of times. (A matter of taste, I freely admit!)

Another thread is discussing Nicholas Meyer as the guy who saved Trek once. Now that JJ has his Trek legs under him, and big box office, how likely is it that he might make a sequel that takes us in a new plot direction? Can he save Trek from its simplistic-plot rut?

 

[Stardate]

Just want to add. Before XI came out, three out of four villain were bold. What did JJ abrams offer us. Another Shinzon type bold villain.

 

[tomalak301]

I didn't know Star Trek needed saving.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I didn't know Star Trek needed saving.

Yeah did Abrams already do that?

 

[Sci]

JJ already saved Star Trek. Hell, he brought it back from the dead.

 

[tomalak301]

I didn't know Star Trek needed saving.

Yeah did Abrams already do that?

Even without JJ, we have 40+ years of enjoyment (Some more than others) and Trek was still viable in other forms like novels and the such. JJ just breathed new life into it.

 

[Stardate]

JJ already saved Star Trek. Hell, he brought it back from the dead.

I disagree with this statement. Abrams did a good job but the idea rebooted Star Trek movie with iconic original crew, Kirk, Spock and McCoy was not only enough to ignite the Star Trek fan-base but also general audience as well. Star Trek never needed any saving. It only needed to go back to its roots.

 

[Chrisisall]

Can he save Trek from its simplistic-plot rut?

In major motion pictures, it's best to play it safe is the rule of thumb.
Read: bad guy go boom.
Now, if JJ wants to be bold, he should take a page from the Serenity playbook, and blur the lines between good & evil in the next movie as much as possible.
But I don't see that happening. However, I'm still up for more simple space adventure if that's what they end up giving us!

 

[RyuRoots]

JJ already saved Star Trek. Hell, he brought it back from the dead.

This. As far as the hero vs villain plots, I don't mind so much. For a feature film, they want something grand and something fun. The only ones that didn't have them were TMP (which oh my GOD is more boring than I can sufficiently describe) IV, (which was funny, but you can't really evaluate it in a dramatic way like the others) and V sorta (which was absolutely horrid).

 

[plynch]

Can he save Trek from its simplistic-plot rut?

In major motion pictures, it's best to play it safe is the rule of thumb.
Read: bad guy go boom.
Now, if JJ wants to be bold, he should take a page from the Serenity playbook, and blur the lines between good & evil in the next movie as much as possible.
But I don't see that happening. However, I'm still up for more simple space adventure if that's what they end up giving us!

I'm not.

I'd much prefer some ambiguity as you suggest.

BUT - thanks for actually reading the OP and what I'm asking if he can save Trek movies from: same ol' same ol defeat the bad guy.

 

[plynch]

JJ already saved Star Trek. Hell, he brought it back from the dead.

This. As far as the hero vs villain plots, I don't mind so much. For a feature film, they want something grand and something fun. The only ones that didn't have them were TMP (which oh my GOD is more boring than I can sufficiently describe) IV, (which was funny, but you can't really evaluate it in a dramatic way like the others) and V sorta (which was absolutely horrid).

TMP was grand and IV was fun. V was at least based on a concept; handled abysmally, I'll grant ya. Kahn was (is) fun -- a great flick! But once was enough.

Folks, I'm actually curious, not just trying to provoke. I don't know the guys work other than Trek XI. From what you know of JJ, can he do a next movie that goes deeper/different? Or should I not get my hopes up and just expect a Transformers 2 in Trek clothing?

 

[Chrisisall]

Folks, I'm actually curious, not just trying to provoke. I don't know the guys work other than Trek XI. From what you know of JJ, can he do a next movie that goes deeper/different? Or should I not get my hopes up and just expect a Transformers 2 in Trek clothing?

Watch Mission Impossible III- he's capable, it just depends on what they'll LET him do, story-wise.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Moving to the Trek XI forum, where they're also discussing Trek XII.

 

[EnsignRicky]

I don't see why he has to automatically be locked into the sequel. Trek has never been about the director, and personally, I think this guy is getting a little too well associated with it. I say give someone else a shot. Hell, let Pine direct it; Who cares.

 

[Chrisisall]

Hell, let Pine direct it; Who cares.

Star Trek XII: The Final Nail?

 

[EnsignRicky]

Hey, it worked for Frakes Nimoy and Shat.... It worked for Frakes and Nimoy.

 

[Chrisisall]

It worked for Frakes and Nimoy.

 

[Jax]

Its a film and a summer one so a bad guy is needed...

you think the public will watch a random explore the planet plot in a SUMMER MOVIE

 

[EnsignRicky]

Screw the public!!

 

[Jax]

I hope you got a few dozen million $$$ to cover the loss