It's partly why Nimoy & Meyer got him back for ST VI as Gorkon. Everyone felt bad that the Talbot role ended up being so underwhelming.
Caithlin Dar - Backstory?
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It's partly why Nimoy & Meyer got him back for ST VI as Gorkon. Everyone felt bad that the Talbot role ended up being so underwhelming.
Regarding the lack of forehead ridges, Did Ambassador Nanclus have the ridges in TUC? It seems like the only times I've seen ridges on Romulans is TNG-era and after (TV & Movies, including Enterprise).
(this is total speculation now, but...) Could this have been sort of a carryover from the ridge-less TOS Romulans ("Balance of Terror")? with TNG on the air at this point it may have been an intention to differentiate TOS Romulans from TNG Rolumans (of course, I'm in no way an informed insider...hell, I'm hardly an outsider).
If that were the case, then the ridged Rom's in ENT just screw everything up (but it wouldn't be the first time ENT screws with something, now would it?)
just a thought or two...
(this is total speculation now, but...) Could this have been sort of a carryover from the ridge-less TOS Romulans ("Balance of Terror")? with TNG on the air at this point it may have been an intention to differentiate TOS Romulans from TNG Rolumans (of course, I'm in no way an informed insider...hell, I'm hardly an outsider).
If that were the case, then the ridged Rom's in ENT just screw everything up (but it wouldn't be the first time ENT screws with something, now would it?)
just a thought or two...
Nope.
No they don't. Not at all. The helmets in TOS probably hid the ridges of the Romulan crews in "Balance of Terror" and "The Enterprise Incident", and flat foreheads in TOS probably denoted Romulans of noble birth. The fact that Spock could walk amongst Romulans on Romulus - undetected as a Vulcan - for several years prior to "Unification" indicates that at least some Romulans of TNG era had flat foreheads.
Never heard that before. Care to share with the rest of the class where you got it?
That would only have established that the 2270s slang expression for Communications Division was the Hello Branch.
I actually liked the introduction of the ambassador characters very much: a pompous entry to establish the pomposity of the assignment, and a quick letdown to establish the letdown of the movi- I mean, the assignment.
And every dog deserves its day. Dar piqued my curiosity, but the failure to learn more about her didn't bother me much. (I actually found the novelization overtly talky and explicit, save perhaps for the Klingon crew subplot which was interesting on its own right while clearly being something for the novelization only.)
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I think the Romulans were only seen once on TNG by the time this film got going. I can't imagine why this would be of concern to Shatner, since he (and pretty much everyone else) knew the Romulans looked like Vulcans. The ridge-heads were a ridiculous way of giving the actors upswept eyebrows without having them shave for a guest role. It annoyed me a lot since TNG perfected the "forehead ridge" alien repetition that made the show visually boring at times. It also made Spock totally stand out in "Unification" on Romulus. Everyone else had the forehead ridges but Spock was smooth. The whole point of the Romulans was their ties to the Vulcans and how they looked like each other.
Obviously, the classic movie people got it, but the later Trek guys didn't.
Because I know for a fact that the makeup people debated
Well, then Shatner was right on the money. The forehead thing was awful and as far as HE was concerned, the Romulans and Vulcans had the same appearance and makeup.
I also giVe him credit for allowing the Klingon forehead ridges to be more radically different to each other instead of having them come out of a mold. The makeup for his film was outstanding and the most realistic to date.
I also giVe him credit for allowing the Klingon forehead ridges to be more radically different to each other instead of having them come out of a mold. The makeup for his film was outstanding and the most realistic to date.
^ Although the foreheads for Valkris, Kruge, Maltz, Torg and the Klingon sergeant (ie. in ST III) are very individualized.
I actually felt the ST V Klingons' crests had a certain sameness in their design. Finer detail in less-pronounced, small-knotted ridges.
I actually felt the ST V Klingons' crests had a certain sameness in their design. Finer detail in less-pronounced, small-knotted ridges.
It is more interesting if Klingons have different forehead ridges.
^ The only place where every Klingon had the same forehead was ST:TMP. And there were about four variations on the mass-produced over-the-head masks for the background extras in ST VI crowd scenes.
And TOS/TAS, of course.
And TOS/TAS, of course.
Interesting...
She looked like an extra from Dynasty.
Aside from some nice interplay between Kirk, Spock and McCoy, Star Trek V is utterly diabolical.
Aside from some nice interplay between Kirk, Spock and McCoy, Star Trek V is utterly diabolical.
There was none. Star Trek V was written on a cocktail napkin one afternoon by William Shatner while he lunched with Heather Locklear on a break from T.J. Hooker. He asked the waitress her name, she said Caithlin Dar AND THE REST IS TREK HISTORY.
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