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Burton ashamed of "Extinction"?

When I try to use the link it is redirected to
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Hm, weird. Here's what you'd find ...

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Linda Park did an interview shortly after Extinction was set to air she didn't enjoy filming that show on a hot tv sound stage or the makeup she had to wear for over 16 hours I remember reading she said she was sick and miserable the whole time they filmed it.
However, she also said that "despite the pain I think that it is going to be a great episode". :lol:
 
We're approaching the topic as if Burton meets our standards, when really Burton might feel differently about reaching his standards. As a director, you're pretty much in charge of that one project, and if something you personally work on doesn't meet your own standards, you've every right to judge your work the way you want.

Besides, Burton could have passed on the episode due to the plot. Clearly he saw something he could work with there. Maybe he saw Identity Crisis 2 (for that matter, that might be why he was called).
 
^^^I hadn't made the "Identity Crisis" connection. Interesting thought. There were certainly...similarities between the two plots.
 
A thought just crossed my mind. Imagine LeVar Burton acting as Geordi LaForge directing the crew of the first Enterprise jumping around like monkeys on a holodeck. That's because there was an apocryphal story that the crew was transformed into aliens but the records of this incident were lost. At some point the computer malfunctions and the holodeck characters transform into the roles completely, and he has to direct a bunch of jumping monkeys, with only him and T'Pol's character being themselves. That would be more entertaining than the episode itself was. And it would be a better way to link the shows than TAV was, and without ruining the final episode.
 
Is this the one where three of the crew people mutate into ancient aliens? If so, I thought it was novel, had a cool idea and a couple of intriguing moments, but overall was a little silly and off-kilter.

If creative people aren't willing to fail, they never do anything interesting - television specifically, from TOS Trek to shows like SNL is a battlefield of more-than-occasional failures that lie there in the shadow of their successes. Because if you're willing to reach high enough to fail - odds are, you will fail repeatedly.

I liked "North Star" - deliver me from rigid oxygen-sucking seasonal plot arcs.
 
If creative people aren't willing to fail, they never do anything interesting - television specifically, from TOS Trek to shows like SNL is a battlefield of more-than-occasional failures that lie there in the shadow of their successes. Because if you're willing to reach high enough to fail - odds are, you will fail repeatedly.

"You can be comfortable and dead or risky and possibly rich."

--Don Draper
 
I think the sole purpose of "Extinction" was to provide a means to alter the DNA of Archer, Hoshi, and T'Pol just in time for the Xindi spy in the following episode to stumble across them randomly in the corridor and take inaccurate bio-metric scans for the Xindi/Reptile bioweapon.

Funny Daniels didn't mention that when he sent Archer and T'Pol back in time to Detroit.

:cardie:
 
Why was he ashamed though?

It was certainly a weak episode, but I'd say it wasn't the weakest. It was better than many others in the franchise. It wasn't even the worst of Season Three - North Star or Doctor's Orders would take that honor.

What was so awful about Extinction?

Doctor's Orders is definitely the worst Ent episode. Not because of Phlox and it wasn't bad idea but it came out as the worst. Extinction I consider as brave and new;) although not the brightest Enterprise momen but interesting enough.
 
I watched it last night. Not the best but not really bad. The weak point for me was lack of explination on why the Xindi was there.
 
It's the only episode in Season 3 that was completely unnecessary.

And "North Star" .... That seemed a bit out of place for the Xindi arc.
“North Star” and “Carpenter Street” at least served as some reminder of Earth. True, the Xindi incident didn't need them as much as Voyager needed them, for example, and they weren't that well realized, but they were still refreshing for me. And I never sick of episodes where they travel to present-time Earth like “Carpenter Street”.

“North Star” would have been better if those Skags weren't so ugly, with a stupid name, and had a proper racial slur assigned to them. With some minor changes here and there, and something to make you say “Hey, it's good to see someone of your own kind in this damn Expanse!”.

I watched it last night. Not the best but not really bad. The weak point for me was lack of explination on why the Xindi was there.
A good episode is one that makes you not care why the Xindi was there. If you consider such minor details in evaluating an episode then the episode is really bad. I'd even say that an episode isn't good unless you get attacked by fans when you start criticizing the minor details in it. ;)
 
The Xindi wasn't really there, was it? It's been a while since I've seen it, but didn't he hallucinate most of what we saw?

I like "Doctor's Orders" quite a bit. Number one, it's a Phlox-heavy episode, which we don't have nearly enough of. Number two (and this is purely personal) it reminds me of a period when I was working grave shift and was severely sleep-deprived much of the time--they really caught that bizarre, demented feeling you get. At least that's what I take away from the episode.
 
The problem with Doctor's Orders for me was it was almost the same episode as Voyager's One. It's like they dusted off the script and changed a few things like they were in a time crunch and needed a quick script.
 
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