Unfortunately not. Even Seven's implants are gone now. She is 100% human. At least, physically.
But I guess we should talk in private or start a new thread. I don't want to steer the conversation away from the original topic.
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But I guess we should talk in private or start a new thread. I don't want to steer the conversation away from the original topic.
Unless we manage to link this to the current topic.
Can't really see how that could be done. We are discussing the fictional side of a show and not even that but its continuation in the books.
This thread is about the acting abilities of two actresses.
As for me, I wouldn't mind a thread being started by someone about the relaunch books.
However, since I stopped on the 8th or 9th book, I think it would be a better idea if a person who's read all the books started it. The last one I read was The Eternal Tide and it was a bit too much to me. By the time I got as far as that in the story, I realized that the whole thing was so un-Voyager. You can reach the Delta Quadrant in less than two and a half hours with slipstream now? Give me a break ...
So yeah, I wouldn't mind discussing the books but someone more knowledgeable than me should start the thread.
This thread is about the acting abilities of two actresses.
As for me, I wouldn't mind a thread being started by someone about the relaunch books.
However, since I stopped on the 8th or 9th book, I think it would be a better idea if a person who's read all the books started it. The last one I read was The Eternal Tide and it was a bit too much to me. By the time I got as far as that in the story, I realized that the whole thing was so un-Voyager. You can reach the Delta Quadrant in less than two and a half hours with slipstream now? Give me a break ...
So yeah, I wouldn't mind discussing the books but someone more knowledgeable than me should start the thread.
Hey, the Iconians could do that instantaneously, thanks to their gateways.
That's lovely to hear.
Unfortunately, Voyager to me is a story about a ship lost in space and getting there in two and a half hours basically kills the essence of the story.That's lovely to hear.
But at the end of Voyager, he was back and no longer lost.
True. It was at that moment that I realized that if they got the ship back to the DQ with some kind of superfast method, it would be no Voyager for me any more.
BTW, the first 5 (or even 6 if we count Before Dishonor - a TNG novel) books take place in the Alpha Quadrant. Those were pretty good stories, I thought. The second two books also had a strong DS9 feel to them. At least for me.
The worst part is that a friend of mine gave me a crate filled with those books and I never got around to reading them, yet. I always have something else to do. There must be like a couple hundred of them.
Well, there are a lot of VOY books but most of them take place during the TV-show.
They are basically divided into the numbered and unnumbered series. I once started the numbered series (no 1. is CARETAKER), read the first three novels after CARETAKER, found them extremely boring and gave up on them.
I read a few more later, my favourite books from the numbered series being the DARK MATTERS trilogy. SPOILER! Romulans as the main enemy back in the AQ plus Chakotay and Tommyboy vanishing to a ... I guess to a new dimension would describe it best (something similar to a parallel universe but not exactly that). I thought that that was a good trilogy.
If you've never read the books and are thinking of getting a foretaste, I can really recommend the DISTANT SHORES anthology. This contains short stories during their journey in the DQ and the stories are in chronological order.
Authors usually pick a minor event from the series and elaborate on them. Like, e.g. what happened to the Doctor during those 18 minutes he spent planetside in BLINK OF AN EYE. Or e.g. how Marika Willkarah spent that one month aboard Voyager after she was freed from that triumvirate in SURVIVAL INSTINCT. Basically good stuff, I thought.
Oh no, are you saying that in later relaunch books they bring them back? This series is getting more and more pathetic with every book ...They weren't destroyed.
I like the re-launch books.
First, they kill off Janeway, then bring her back. Then they destroy the borg and if I understood you correctly, they bring them back as well? Painful ...
Well, the way the borg are, if only a handful of then survive, they can grow an empire back, the question is how long it would take, but it would happen, eventually.
I suppose it depends on how you interpret the word 'destroyed'. They weren't destroyed. They still exist...just somewhere else and as something else.
That's what dead people are, somewhere else and something else.
I suppose it could be considered the equivalent of Borg Heaven...except it's real. They aren't dead.
I see.
Well, they've been assimilated by a race even more powerful than the Borg.
I think if the Borg assimilated all the inhabitants of the Earth, technically speaking that would mean the end of humankind. Although we might live on as Borg drones, I think humankind would be dead.
But, and this is the bigger but, if a species lives on as part of another one after they've been assimilated, they cease to exist as the main villain of the show. This is what I find to be one of the worst things about the relaunch books. Technically speaking the borg might not be dead but in reality they are. The have been assimilated, which to me is synonymous with "destroyed". In the state they are in now, it's virtually inconceivable that they can pose any kind of threat, which means that one of the best - if not the best - plot opportunities is lost. Voyager has always been the big borg show to me, Voyager has also always been the show about a starship lost in space and the relaunch books took all that away from us.
Not to mention the fact that Voyager is not alone now in the DQ but heading an entire armada. Where's the sense of being lost, the sense of being alone? Lost ... somewhere in the writing.
I think if the Borg assimilated all the inhabitants of the Earth, technically speaking that would mean the end of humankind. Although we might live on as Borg drones, I think humankind would be dead.
But, and this is the bigger but, if a species lives on as part of another one after they've been assimilated, they cease to exist as the main villain of the show. This is what I find to be one of the worst things about the relaunch books. Technically speaking the borg might not be dead but in reality they are. The have been assimilated, which to me is synonymous with "destroyed". In the state they are in now, it's virtually inconceivable that they can pose any kind of threat, which means that one of the best - if not the best - plot opportunities is lost. Voyager has always been the big borg show to me, Voyager has also always been the show about a starship lost in space and the relaunch books took all that away from us.
Not to mention the fact that Voyager is not alone now in the DQ but heading an entire armada. Where's the sense of being lost, the sense of being alone? Lost ... somewhere in the writing.
I think it shouldn't be too hard to create new villains. People often like to rely on the tried and true but I think, when it comes to fantasy writing, that it's a mistake.
That's so true about the borg, By the end of Voyager, they looked a lot less scary than when they first appeared on TNG.
