Budweiser Factory Enterprise, Good or Bad Idea?

[Gojira]

I don't mind the idea behind what they did and there are moments where the idea was well executed. However there were moment, specifically when the security guards were chasing Kirk & Scotty in the engine room, where it totally took me out of the movie.

I think if they do it again for the next movie they should do some green screens to make it a little less obvious.

 

[GeorgeKirk]

I don't consider myself to be one of those overly picky fans, but some of those Engineering scenes were a little too reminiscent of the movie Space Mutiny. They did a lot of greenscreen work to make the college campus where the Academy scenes were filmed look like it was located near a futuristic San Francisco; why couldn't they have put forth the same amount of effort to make the brewery look like the inside of a spaceship?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Where?

The scene just after Kirk and McCoy just landed on the Enterprise and McCoy is carrying Kirk to sickbay. If you look on the floor, you can clearly see it's made of bricks.

Red clay tile, at any rate--the same as you'd often find in the back room of a restaurant, the processing areas in a dairy or, yes, in a brewery--easily cleaned and sanitized.

Click click

No doubt made from a hitech futuristic material designed to with withstand the rigors of space travel and the possibility of rapidly changing environmental conditions.

Speaking of "bricks", "tiles" and "spaceships":

Much of the shuttle is covered with LI-900 silica tiles, made from essentially very pure quartz sand.[1] The insulation prevents heat transfer to the underlying orbiter aluminum skin and structure. These tiles are such poor heat conductors that one can hold one while it is still red hot. There are about 24,300 unique tiles individually fitted on the vehicle, for which the Orbiter has been called "the flying brickyard".

Not the same thing, but....

 

[Amaris]

While scenes from V were indeed shot in the same brewery, those in Robocop 2 were filmed in an Anheuser-Busch brewery in Houston, TX.

Ah. Well, I can honestly say, the beer is all that matters, and I'm glad it was safe during filming.

The scene just after Kirk and McCoy just landed on the Enterprise and McCoy is carrying Kirk to sickbay. If you look on the floor, you can clearly see it's made of bricks.

Red clay tile, at any rate--the same as you'd often find in the back room of a restaurant, the processing areas in a dairy or, yes, in a brewery--easily cleaned and sanitized.

Click click

No doubt made from a hitech futuristic material designed to with withstand the rigors of space travel and the possibility of rapidly changing environmental conditions.

Speaking of "bricks", "tiles" and "spaceships":

Much of the shuttle is covered with LI-900 silica tiles, made from essentially very pure quartz sand.[1] The insulation prevents heat transfer to the underlying orbiter aluminum skin and structure. These tiles are such poor heat conductors that one can hold one while it is still red hot. There are about 24,300 unique tiles individually fitted on the vehicle, for which the Orbiter has been called "the flying brickyard".

Not the same thing, but....

Works for me!

 

[Jeyl]

Works for me!

You do realize that this is the same money saving tactic that a movie called "Space Mutiny" used, right? So if you're willing to pass on this, you might as well praise SM for being ahead of it's time.

 

[scotpens]

Why not film on an aircraft carrier and dress that up a bit for the lower decks?

Why not indeed? It worked for Silent Running.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Works for me!

You do realize that this is the same money saving tactic that a movie called "Space Mutiny" used, right? So if you're willing to pass on this, you might as well praise SM for being ahead of it's time.

I doubt SM pioneered the concept.

 

[Jeyl]

Works for me!

You do realize that this is the same money saving tactic that a movie called "Space Mutiny" used, right? So if you're willing to pass on this, you might as well praise SM for being ahead of it's time.

I doubt SM pioneered the concept.

No, but at least there's 'some' level of justification due to the film's obvious lack of budget. There's just no excuse for what I saw in Star Trek. 150 million dollars and they use a money saving tactic?

 

[Maurice]

The film has a buttload of locations and sets, far more so than other Trek films, so that $150 mil has to go a lot farther.

The engine room is a minor set, all things considered, so it's not surprising they chose a location that afforded a lot of scale than to build something so-so with the money they had.

That said, Uhura down by the tanks was just flipping weird.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You do realize that this is the same money saving tactic that a movie called "Space Mutiny" used, right? So if you're willing to pass on this, you might as well praise SM for being ahead of it's time.

I doubt SM pioneered the concept.

No, but at least there's 'some' level of justification due to the film's obvious lack of budget. There's just no excuse for what I saw in Star Trek. 150 million dollars and they use a money saving tactic?

Who doesn't like to save money? Or use the money saved elsewhere? Studios and producers use money saving tactics no matter what the budget.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I liked the brewery. I was glad we didn't have the usual "people standing around pretending to push buttons in front of a big blue lava lamp".

Remember, the casual audience (i.e. those the film was aimed at and who made it a success) really don't care about freakin' power transfer conduits.

Plus, surely the next film has to include the brewery, simply for continuity reasons?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

You do realize that this is the same money saving tactic that a movie called "Space Mutiny" used...

I don't care, because it doesn't matter.

Actually, a few movies and tv shows - some with rather extensive budgets - have used the Van Nuys brewery. The original "V" famously did.

 

[I-Am-Zim]

I liked the brewery. I was glad we didn't have the usual "people standing around pretending to push buttons in front of a big blue lava lamp".

Remember, the casual audience (i.e. those the film was aimed at and who made it a success) really don't care about freakin' power transfer conduits.

Plus, surely the next film has to include the brewery, simply for continuity reasons?

If said "casual audience" really doesn't care, then what was the point? Why not use a set that actually looked like something out of Star Trek instead of the Titanic? If the casual viewer doesn't care, it would have made no difference. You never know, engineering in the next movie may be set in a textile mill. They didn't care about continuity in this film, why should they in the next one?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Even TOS couldn't keep there engineering set consistant. It looked different every time it was used. And given the size of the ship what we saw was pretty insignificant. Plenty of room on the secondary hull for a "brewery" as well. Maybe near the bowling ally.

 

[Warped9]

They didn't care about continuity in this film, why should they in the next one?

In fairness if you're hitting the restart button then you are not bound by any previous continuity.

That said it would have been nice to see some measure of credible logic in the nu continuity they're creating.

 

[Nerys Myk]

They didn't care about continuity in this film, why should they in the next one?

In fairness if you're hitting the restart button then you are not bound by any previous continuity.

That said it would have been nice to see some measure of credible logic in the nu continuity they're creating.

Such as?

 

[Amaris]

Works for me!

You do realize that this is the same money saving tactic that a movie called "Space Mutiny" used, right? So if you're willing to pass on this, you might as well praise SM for being ahead of it's time.

I am talking about Star Trek, not "Space Mutiny". I have no interest in "Space Mutiny" and do not care what they used and when they used it.

 

[Kelso]

I like that engineering looked large and complex... but I, like most people, would have preferred something a bit futuristic looking.

I understand the practical value of using the brewery, but it seems like a digital set extension would have worked just as well*. They were only in engineering a few times and was typically empty anyway.

* Not that I actually know anything about film production, mind you.

 

[scotpens]

THIS looks futuristic.

THIS doesn't.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

If said "casual audience" really doesn't care, then what was the point?

Money.
Money.
M-O-N-E-Y.

That's the point. Money.

By using the location for engineering, they had more money free to spend on more important things.

Okay?