Budweiser Factory Enterprise, Good or Bad Idea?

[F. King Daniel]

The TMP-VOY warp cores really do look like lava lamps. The Red Matter thing on the Jellyfish just looks like a red blob floating there.

I really don't see why the bigger ship is a "problem". I mean, I would be really annoyed if they tried to say the ship was tiny when none of the innards would fit. I wonder if it's just some weird thing where TOS-obsessives hate the idea that this new, gigantic (deep breath) Enterprise-on-steroids-with-six-warp-cores-and-pulse-phasers-designed-to-stop-24th-century-Romulan-missiles would probably smash 1701-pime like tin foil? A "my favourite is better and thus must be the biggest" thing?
Or is it really people crying over size comparion charts and that "big windows aren't allowed until TNG"?

Back on topic, although I liked the brewery in STXI and don't intend this as brewery-bashing, I wonder why a similar location wasn't redressed as a GIANT Borg Cube for First Contact? Cut the lighting, use loads of black paint and eerie Aliens-style strobes...

 

[muzzleflash]

Oooohhhh. An open-plan Engineering hull that's one big open space with some corridors or bulkheads

Problem solved.

 

[JarodRussell]

Then there's STV.

Which is a whole different movie than TMP. What has the attention to detail that went into TMP have to do with how they screwed up in STV?

This

With sets like from TPM and so fourth, you not only know what section of the ship you're in, but where it is in the ship

So you did get the point but didn't like to admit that, so you decided to go at semantics again.

Point is that the design of the TMP refit (both exterior model and interior sets) was much better crafted than the design of the new ship where everything seems just slapped together.
There were very cool concept designs for the engine room. One of them looked like a great predecessor of the TMP engine room, where you also saw the curvature of the secondary hull (probably from the time where the ship was also still 300 m long). But apparently that got ditched in order to shoot in a brewery, and then the ship got rescaled.

Essentially it's what they did in ST V: very sloppy work.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Which is a whole different movie than TMP. What has the attention to detail that went into TMP have to do with how they screwed up in STV?

This

With sets like from TPM and so fourth, you not only know what section of the ship you're in, but where it is in the ship

So you did get the point but didn't like to admit that, so you decided to go at semantics again.

Point is that the design of the TMP refit (both exterior model and interior sets) was much better crafted than the design of the new ship where everything seems just slapped together.
There were very cool concept designs for the engine room. One of them looked like a great predecessor of the TMP engine room, where you also saw the curvature of the secondary hull (probably from the time where the ship was also still 300 m long). But apparently that got ditched in order to shoot in a brewery, and then the ship got rescaled.

Essentially it's what they did in ST V: very sloppy work.

What are you on about this time? I was just making a joke about STV screwing things up with its deck numbering. I even added a " ". He set up the joke by say "so fourth". Can't a guy bash STV any more?

 

[Jeyl]

What are you on about this time? I was just making a joke about STV screwing things up with its deck numbering. I even added a " ". He set up the joke by say "so fourth". Can't a guy bash STV any more?

STV is one of those rare gems of a film that can be left out of the continuity entirely and not miss a thing. In fact, it would work a lot better for the series as a whole since VI carries on the previous stories and character drama (Kirk's hatred of Klingons compared to his 'mutual' not liking them in V).

But still, they did have some cool looking sets. I can't help but feel there's a similarity between the walkways that Kirk, McCoy, Spock and Scotty walk down (before Scotty bangs his head) and the new hallways of the NuEnterprise.

 

[Rusty0918]

Well, there have been some fair share of bonehead ideas on starship sets, such as those "glass" floors in TNG's "Heart of Glory."

The concept of engineering being more industrialized is actually a good idea, but it was poorly executed. I intend to agree that it reeks of "Space Mutiny," although that movie took it one step further with hanging swinging lights, visible brick walls, those 3 mph enforcer vehicles, etc.

 

[Jeyl]

The concept of engineering being more industrialized is actually a good idea, but it was poorly executed. I intend to agree that it reeks of "Space Mutiny," although that movie took it one step further with hanging swinging lights, visible brick walls, those 3 mph enforcer vehicles, etc.

The RiffTrax for Star Trek even paid homage to Space Mutiny by literally lifting a riff from the episode saying "So their ship is just one giant basement." when Pike is walking with the crew in the shuttle bay.

 

[I-Am-Zim]

I guess the Abramsprise can travel faster than the speed of BudLight?

*Sorry, I just couldn't help myself...*

 

[M'Sharak]