The renaming Superboy was indeed because they didn't have the rights to say the name; the Earth-2 Superman wouldn't have anything to do with that.
As to the OP: the confusion continues...
Bryan Singer talks about the next Superman film
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As to the OP: the confusion continues...
Interesting, but definitely a suit likes this needs to be settled quickly and shame on DC for not reaching an amicable agreement with the estate of the creator of their iconic character, especially since he never received what he deserved originally.
Frank Langella talks about "Superman" and Bryan Singer:
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/11/2...superman-sequel-and-returning-as-perry-white/
"I have a very strong sense that there will be another 'Superman,' and that I will play Perry White in it," said Langella when asked about a potential return as the editorial chief of the Daily Planet, the newspaper of repute in DC Comics' fictional city of Metropolis.
"I don't know when that will be and I don't know who the players will be in it," continued Langella. "I don't even know if Bryan [Singer] will direct it, but I'm sure he's considering it and [Warner Bros.] is talking back and forth about it."
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Interesting.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/11/2...superman-sequel-and-returning-as-perry-white/
"I have a very strong sense that there will be another 'Superman,' and that I will play Perry White in it," said Langella when asked about a potential return as the editorial chief of the Daily Planet, the newspaper of repute in DC Comics' fictional city of Metropolis.
"I don't know when that will be and I don't know who the players will be in it," continued Langella. "I don't even know if Bryan [Singer] will direct it, but I'm sure he's considering it and [Warner Bros.] is talking back and forth about it."
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Interesting.
Returns received mostly positive press in the media, the fans seem to be split right down the middle though.
Thanks for the updates so far Supervisor.
They're calling him Superboy again in the pages of Legion of Three Worlds.
Also, the current continuity in the Superman books alludes to Supes having been Superboy for a spell. During the Legion arc in Action, there was a bit with young Clark fist meeting the LOSH and he's shown wearing the Superman uniform underneath his clothing. Now, whether he donned it only for his LOSH adventures like in the cartoon or went around as Superboy in Smallville hasn't been shown or stated.
Singer: All I can say for certain right now is that there may or may not be another Superman film, and I may or may not be directing it.
Well, if they go reboot route, they could do it ala the recent 007 reboot: new continuity, but use some of the same actors in the old roles.
Or do a Crisis movie, and merge the Christopher Reeve films/Brandon Routh film with other timelines into a new one.
The lawsuit is still ongoing? I thought that had been resolved. Anyways wasn't there a thread on Warner Bros planning a rebooting of the franchise a couple of weeks ago from Vanity Fair or the Hollywood Reporter? My dream creative team on a Superman movie would be this:
Bryan Singer--Director/Producer
Mark Millar--Co-Story, Screenplay
Grant Morrison--Co-Story, Screenplay
Millar and Morrison have pumped out two pretty great Superman stories in All Star Superman and Superman Red Son and seem to have a good enough understanding of the core and essence of the character to make it work on a Hollywood level. Singer has the visual aspects and technical ability to bring their vision to life. It's a perfect match...and if those non-Millar fans out there don't like my choice of him then you could also switch him with Geoff Johns who has done great work on Action Comics during his past three year run and has written the upcoming Smallville episode "LEGION".
As for a origin story included in another movie...you could do what morrison did in All Star and do a montage of the origin and move onwards from there.
Bryan Singer--Director/Producer
Mark Millar--Co-Story, Screenplay
Grant Morrison--Co-Story, Screenplay
Millar and Morrison have pumped out two pretty great Superman stories in All Star Superman and Superman Red Son and seem to have a good enough understanding of the core and essence of the character to make it work on a Hollywood level. Singer has the visual aspects and technical ability to bring their vision to life. It's a perfect match...and if those non-Millar fans out there don't like my choice of him then you could also switch him with Geoff Johns who has done great work on Action Comics during his past three year run and has written the upcoming Smallville episode "LEGION".
As for a origin story included in another movie...you could do what morrison did in All Star and do a montage of the origin and move onwards from there.
Yes that Mark Millar...and I'm fine with a nine hour Superman epic story. The movie franchise isn't exactly in the best of states now is it?
I'd like to see one live-action Superman movie which does not retell his origin and does not feature Lex Luthor or Kryptonite.
This reminds me of the early, mid and late 90's where we were all speculating about the direction of the new Superman film. Even now that one has been made, it seems we're still in the same position, wondering who is going to direct, who is going to star, and what the story is going to be.
Nice to know some things never change, right?
Nice to know some things never change, right?
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Im looking forward to a reboot without Bryant Sinner. He and his two boytoys (the man-child writers...I cant remember their names nor do I care to) The only reason they got the job was cause they were Bryant Sinners lovers. Neither of those 3 need to be involved.
That said. I am looking forward to a re-telling of the kryptonian backstory with fully fleshed out Jor-Els and The Council and even an Experimental Doomsday and Zod. There is Sooo much good story there that could be told. And if the average person wouldnt want to sit thru a 2 hour movie without Superman flying around they could do back-flashes as Superman is doing something in Metrplopolis. Start out the first 10-15 minutes on Metropolis with Supes...Then a 1/2 hour chunk establishing Krypton...and then keep going back in forth between the 2 with 1 overall relevant plot (yet to be determined)...That way you can get a complete Krypton story and still have Supes doing his shit...BOBW
That said. I am looking forward to a re-telling of the kryptonian backstory with fully fleshed out Jor-Els and The Council and even an Experimental Doomsday and Zod. There is Sooo much good story there that could be told. And if the average person wouldnt want to sit thru a 2 hour movie without Superman flying around they could do back-flashes as Superman is doing something in Metrplopolis. Start out the first 10-15 minutes on Metropolis with Supes...Then a 1/2 hour chunk establishing Krypton...and then keep going back in forth between the 2 with 1 overall relevant plot (yet to be determined)...That way you can get a complete Krypton story and still have Supes doing his shit...BOBW
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Superman Returns is certainly a flawed film, but I still enjoyed it for the most part. The script, the draft that was published, is rather good but still has some major logic problems; one being the introduction of the kid subplot, but not given any resolution to it in the 3rd act and the romance between Lois/Clark/Superman due to the introduction of the Clark/Supes hybrid, Richard. Although, both elements fit in with the two themes Singer was going for-- what happens when old boyfriends return and does Superman have a place in a world that's moved on from him?
However, the movie was billed as why the world needs a Superman and how the world has moved on; yet, we see little of that. 15 minutes into the film and boom, he's back. Poor pacing. It seems as if the suits demanded Supes appear as quickly as possible. The whole first act should've been about what the world was like without Superman.
The film was beautifully shot. The composition of the scenes well done. The acting, however, was ho-hum whether due to the actors or Singer's direction, I don't know.
Routh given more meat and things to say and do would make an excellent Superman. I loved his interpretation of Clark Kent, not too over the top like Christopher Reeve but still enough of that awkward, mild-mannered reporter who disappears into the background. Kate Bosworth.... snooze. Kevin Spacey... too Gene Hackman, but that's also in the writing as well as the performance. They relied too much on the Donner films for Lex Luthor, which was an error in judgment. Lex should feel like a threat, the exact opposite of what Superman stands for-- or Clark Kent's dark mirror image. Both Lex and Superman are highly intelligent and that doesn't come through in the film.
Returns tried for a more mature portrayal of the Man of Steel. It's an admiral goal, but the execution was flawed. Superman, like Batman, can be treated seriously but most still stay true to the character of Superman and must effect him emotionally, as SR tried to do but didn't.
My problem with Singer as a director isn't the composition of his shots but rather his pacing. His edits often seemed hurried and rushed in places, then overly slow in others. With SR, the movie is too rushed in the first act and the third act drags. His other films suffer from the same thing, imo, like The Usual Suspects.
With the script, some scenes seemed added just to add action. For example, the bank robbery scene. It did nothing to move the plot or tell us anything new about Superman that we didn't already know. It felt dropped in at the last minute. Also, Superman tended to take a backseat to the supporting characters. They forgot the Superman in Superman Returns.
That said, I wouldn't mind Routh back as Superman. If a comic book writer is to help with the film, I'd rather it be Grant Morrison than Mark Millar. The former seems to have a better respect of the complexities of the Clark Kent/Superman dual identity than the latter. I also don't like much of Millar's interpretation of the characters, even if some of it is based on Elliot S! Maggin's concepts. Millar forgets one imporant thing in terms of Lois and Clark; that Lois really loves Clark, but can't accept it and thus must prove that he is really Superman. He also has a swallow view of the Kent identity, imo. Although, Millar does understand that Clark Kent can do things that Superman can't. It's the whole duality that is lacking in Millar's ideas.
I just hope that we get another Superman film soon. The zeigtgest might be right for the optimisim that Superman (and Trek) embody.
However, the movie was billed as why the world needs a Superman and how the world has moved on; yet, we see little of that. 15 minutes into the film and boom, he's back. Poor pacing. It seems as if the suits demanded Supes appear as quickly as possible. The whole first act should've been about what the world was like without Superman.
The film was beautifully shot. The composition of the scenes well done. The acting, however, was ho-hum whether due to the actors or Singer's direction, I don't know.
Routh given more meat and things to say and do would make an excellent Superman. I loved his interpretation of Clark Kent, not too over the top like Christopher Reeve but still enough of that awkward, mild-mannered reporter who disappears into the background. Kate Bosworth.... snooze. Kevin Spacey... too Gene Hackman, but that's also in the writing as well as the performance. They relied too much on the Donner films for Lex Luthor, which was an error in judgment. Lex should feel like a threat, the exact opposite of what Superman stands for-- or Clark Kent's dark mirror image. Both Lex and Superman are highly intelligent and that doesn't come through in the film.
Returns tried for a more mature portrayal of the Man of Steel. It's an admiral goal, but the execution was flawed. Superman, like Batman, can be treated seriously but most still stay true to the character of Superman and must effect him emotionally, as SR tried to do but didn't.
My problem with Singer as a director isn't the composition of his shots but rather his pacing. His edits often seemed hurried and rushed in places, then overly slow in others. With SR, the movie is too rushed in the first act and the third act drags. His other films suffer from the same thing, imo, like The Usual Suspects.
With the script, some scenes seemed added just to add action. For example, the bank robbery scene. It did nothing to move the plot or tell us anything new about Superman that we didn't already know. It felt dropped in at the last minute. Also, Superman tended to take a backseat to the supporting characters. They forgot the Superman in Superman Returns.
That said, I wouldn't mind Routh back as Superman. If a comic book writer is to help with the film, I'd rather it be Grant Morrison than Mark Millar. The former seems to have a better respect of the complexities of the Clark Kent/Superman dual identity than the latter. I also don't like much of Millar's interpretation of the characters, even if some of it is based on Elliot S! Maggin's concepts. Millar forgets one imporant thing in terms of Lois and Clark; that Lois really loves Clark, but can't accept it and thus must prove that he is really Superman. He also has a swallow view of the Kent identity, imo. Although, Millar does understand that Clark Kent can do things that Superman can't. It's the whole duality that is lacking in Millar's ideas.
I just hope that we get another Superman film soon. The zeigtgest might be right for the optimisim that Superman (and Trek) embody.
I would gladly see a more mature portrayal of Superman; unfortunately, this version of the character acted like a lovelorn adoslescent, moping around outside his ex's.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
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