Personally, I actually like his design work for the TOS films (IV-VI) better than his 24th century design work.I said undersung. Not unsung. He gets love, but not enough given his design philosophy basically created what Star Trek looked like for almost 20 straight years.
I must admit I do have a fondness for that TUC bridge, though…The sleek Okudagram and all-touchscreen Enterprise-A bridges will always be superior to the weird mishmash of touchscreens and recording studio switches and faders that was in TUC.
That was unrestrained Nick Meyer again. I have said many times that I think Meyer needed to be balanced out by someone like Harve Bennett who kept some of his ideas in check and had more respect for the source material.The sleek Okudagram and all-touchscreen Enterprise-A bridges will always be superior to the weird mishmash of touchscreens and recording studio switches and faders that was in TUC.
I thought it was a good choice to back away from the TNG look a bit, considering how many decades separated the two time periods.The sleek Okudagram and all-touchscreen Enterprise-A bridges will always be superior to the weird mishmash of touchscreens and recording studio switches and faders that was in TUC.
The TFF bridge is actually my all-time favorite bridge. I thought it was a perfect transition point between the TOS/TMP bridge and the TNG bridge. I wish Meyer hadn't changed it for TUC.I thought it was a good choice to back away from the TNG look a bit, considering how many decades separated the two time periods.
It's a good transition point, it's just that they're in different centuries so maybe it's not time for that yet.The TFF bridge is actually my all-time favorite bridge. I thought it was a perfect transition point between the TOS/TMP bridge and the TNG bridge. I wish Meyer hadn't changed it for TUC.
Well, yeah, but that really was Wise's call.BTW, the bridge lighting on the only Trek film GR made was extremely dim and submarine-like.
There was a rumor at the time, and I heard it from various sources in the decade following, that the studio wanted the D destroyed due to royalty payments to Andrew Probert. In other words, it was a cost-saving move for future films. As far as I know, it's been debunked, and I think Probert has denied it.
@Mudd's right. It's all work-for-hire stuff. None of those production guys get points or residuals.Yeah, art staff get paid to do the work and that's it. No residuals.
It also provides some visual contrast between the Enterprise and Excelsior bridges, with the Enterprise having a mix of touchscreen and tactile controls, and the Excelsior being all-touchscreen, emphasizing that one ship is newer than the other.I thought it was a good choice to back away from the TNG look a bit, considering how many decades separated the two time periods.
Ah, but do we know for sure that Excelsior is newer? This is the Enterprise-A we are talking about, not the original Enterprise. And despite the fan speculation and such, nothing was ever said to indicate that it was an existing ship that got rechristened vs. a brand new ship at the time of TVH. Scotty even refers to her as "this new ship" in TFF.It also provides some visual contrast between the Enterprise and Excelsior bridges, with the Enterprise having a mix of touchscreen and tactile controls, and the Excelsior being all-touchscreen, emphasizing that one ship is newer than the other.
Seems weird that they'd decommission it less than ten years after launch?And despite the fan speculation and such, nothing was ever said to indicate that it was an existing ship that got rechristened vs. a brand new ship at the time of TVH. Scotty even refers to her as "this new ship" in TFF.
Starfleet has been known to make weird decisions on more than one occasion.Seems weird that they'd decommission it less than ten years after launch?
Good point (and I myself tend to fall on the "Enterprise-A was actually brand-new and not the Yorktown with all the corpses hosed out" side, and was decommissioned due to frame damage from a dozen-odd unshielded photon torpedo strikes), so let's say a newer generation or newer technology, even if the -A technically came out of the shipyard after the Excelsior. In-universe, it's a bit wibbly, anyway, since the -A has a new/overhauled bridge in TUC compared to TFF and TVH, and we don't know when the Excelsior's bridge was swapped from the TSFS mdoel. You could make the argument that the Excelsior's bridge is actually older, and the TVH/TFF touch-screens turned out to be buggy, so it was the more recent model that shifted back to physical controls for key functions.Ah, but do we know for sure that Excelsior is newer? This is the Enterprise-A we are talking about, not the original Enterprise. And despite the fan speculation and such, nothing was ever said to indicate that it was an existing ship that got rechristened vs. a brand new ship at the time of TVH. Scotty even refers to her as "this new ship" in TFF.
When was the Enterprise-A hit a dozen times while unshielded?and was decommissioned due to frame damage from a dozen-odd unshielded photon torpedo strikes
Oh, right. The one movie where they didn’t contrive a reason to have the shields down, but the visual effects still acted like they did. Well, two or three unshielded torpedos still isn’t great.When was the Enterprise-A hit a dozen times while unshielded?
Good point (and I myself tend to fall on the "Enterprise-A was actually brand-new and not the Yorktown with all the corpses hosed out" side, and was decommissioned due to frame damage from a dozen-odd unshielded photon torpedo strikes), so let's say a newer generation or newer technology, even if the -A technically came out of the shipyard after the Excelsior.
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