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News Brent Spiner Returned for "Picard" (and you could do the CGI better in 15 minutes, we get it)

B4 is in the drawer according to Spiner's TV Line interview alongside the cast. Interesting.

I'll take Data/Spiner in any incarnation. So excited for this show!
 
Oh, its definitely B4 then? I was wondering if they were going to be using flashbacks or something but its interesting they went the route Nemesis left open for them.

I remember at the time how unoriginal it was to kill off Data, only to plant seeds for his return in the future. Why bother killing him off in the first place? Well it was a different time; I guess.

17 years then since Nemesis came out so there has been quite a long time to build the nostalgia and treasure the good memories I have of his character.

I'm really looking forward to him anyway. And Seven and Hugh as well.
 
I remember at the time how unoriginal it was to kill off Data, only to plant seeds for his return in the future. Why bother killing him off in the first place? Well it was a different time; I guess.
They basically did the same thing they did with Spock. At the time of Nemesis, they were already beginning work on the script for the 5th TNG movie, and I believe Spiner had some involvement on that script, but I could be misremembering.

I don't think Data really can be killed off. In "Thine own Self" he is killed, buried, then retrieved some time later and repaired. In "Time's Arrow" he is killed, and restored using his head that sat in a cave for 500 years. I'm sure Data "died" in other episodes that I can't remember also.
 
I found a relevant quote:

Patrick Stewart said:
"While we were filming Nemesis an idea was being developed by John Logan, the screenwriter of Nemesis, and Brent Spiner for a fifth and final movie. It was a very exciting idea for a screenplay. It would have been a real farewell to Next Generation, but it would have involved other historic aspects of Star Trek as well. I can’t go into details because the project wasn’t mine. When that didn’t happen, the studio announced in its own inimitable way that we were suffering from franchise fatigue and that there was to be no more, and I am absolutely content with that. I remain very proud of the work that we did, very proud of the series and the movies, but I do not wish to return to it."

https://trekmovie.com/2010/10/06/pa...ovie-video-images-from-a-life-in-the-theatre/
 
I remember at the time how unoriginal it was to kill off Data, only to plant seeds for his return in the future. Why bother killing him off in the first place?

Just a Trek tradition.

2b1c4-spock27s_resting_place.jpg
 
That's one of the things that bugged me about Nemesis; the ending felt like a purely warmed-over TWOK/Spock's death. It was such an average way to go out.

But yeah, different times indeed. I'm excited that he's back. That particular era has been well rested, and with new creatives in charge I have faith it could be good.
 

From Memory Alpha:

"“One of the ideas that John Logan and I had about what the next film would have been was a Justice League of Star Trek. Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together, from Khan to Shinzon, and Picard is the only person who could stop them and he actually has to go through time and pluck out the people he needs to help him. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock, and go even further back and get Scott Bakula's character, Archer. The problem with that more than anything is cost – how do you pay for that?"

All the villains?! So far-fetched, even for Trek!!

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Undeveloped_Star_Trek_projects
 
wow! ...that's... a whole new level of terrible. I had no idea!
From Memory Alpha:

"“One of the ideas that John Logan and I had about what the next film would have been was a Justice League of Star Trek. Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together, from Khan to Shinzon, and Picard is the only person who could stop them and he actually has to go through time and pluck out the people he needs to help him. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock, and go even further back and get Scott Bakula's character, Archer. The problem with that more than anything is cost – how do you pay for that?"

All the villains?! So far-fetched, even for Trek!!

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Undeveloped_Star_Trek_projects
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Savage_Curtain
 
I just watched the tvline interview with the Picard cast. Brent Spiner will appear as Data in several episodes this is great news!:biggrin::D:beer:
 
I think some of us forget that Data is no longer Data. He is B-4 with Data’s “brain” in him. All we know is that B-4 was an earlier version of Data. For all we know, Dr. Soong could have built in “natural” aging to B-4’s system, which he later didn’t do for Data for whatever reason. Maybe he felt that an aging process for the android would make him more accepted in society. Just spit-balling here.
In the TNG episode "Inheritance," it was stated that Data (and the Juliana Tainer android) has programming to make him appear to age physically.

Kor
 
It got to be a hologram who Picard hangs with when he needs support,opinions, advice, etc..

It's the only thing that really makes sense.
 
The yellow irises on his eyes look too large and too much of a "lemony" shade of yellow, and lacking the softness that they used to have. The pupils are too small, too.

Kor
 
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