The second episode, "Thirty-Eight Snub" had some good stuff. I liked seeing Walt try to make amends with Mike only to get a cold and vicious response. Two different worlds, those two. I wonder if Mike will switch sides and join up with Walt at some point. I wouldn't take in someone like that if they tried to kill me. It also looks like the murder Jesse commited is starting to really get to him. And what's up with Hank's minerals?
Breaking Bad - Season 4
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Good stuff in this episode. Walt is pretty screwed at this point. He's going to need to tap into that resourcefulness he's shown in certain other situations to find a way to get to Gus. Either that or he's going to have to get lucky and have it fall into his lap again (he seems to have a knack for doing that). I'm not surprised at Mike's reaction, though it's funny that Walt was. I think Mike's response was partly earnest frustration at the stubbornness of Walt but also was a clear demonstration of where his loyalties lie. Maybe something will happen to turn Mike against Gus and this is how the situation will be resolved; who knows. Jesse turning back to drugs was to be expected but now he has a real reason to go off the deep end. It'll be interesting to see how that develops.
Loved Jim Beavers appearance! Overall good episode.
I'm not sure I believe in Mike. I'm fairly skeptical of the notion that some men are just so bad ass that they can pretty much take on the world. On one level, you can accept that Mike is confident he'll never screw up like Victor, but on the other level you have to think he's a fool for not wanting away from psycho killer. Which is what Fring is, not just for wanting to personally kill Victor but for ordering the murder of the kid just to defy a nobody punk like Jesse.
Getting out from under Fring's thumb means either taking over the lab and his distribution network or killing Fring and walking away. If Walt wants to do the first, he's already behind time plotting an intricate takeover. If he just wants to do the second, he's got to find out who knows he's Heisenberg and might want his services or who might take it amiss if he kills Fring. If he doesn't he might just set himself up for murder.
Getting out from under Fring's thumb means either taking over the lab and his distribution network or killing Fring and walking away. If Walt wants to do the first, he's already behind time plotting an intricate takeover. If he just wants to do the second, he's got to find out who knows he's Heisenberg and might want his services or who might take it amiss if he kills Fring. If he doesn't he might just set himself up for murder.
My opinion is that Mike might still switch sides but that he's smart enough to do it on his own terms. Walt's offer came in the middle of a public bar. Mike had to beat the crap out of Walt for his own safety (in case somebody was watching). He'll think about the offer on his own and then come to a conclusion one way or the other.
I enjoyed the second episode. I do wonder how Giancarlo Esposito (Gus) is going to going to remain a regular if they're sticking to Mike's promise that Walt will never see him again, though. Then again, Mike already appeared to be having second thoughts when he noticed what I imagine was Victor's blood on his jacket.
That might be part of it, but I also think that Mike was just angry with Walt. After all, if Gale hadn't been murdered, Victor would never had been sent to the crime scene, wouldn't have been seen by the police, and wouldn't have been killed by Gus. Mike just wants to be a guy doing a job, but Walt is making that increasingly difficult for him to do.
The ret-con with the pizza place was a nice nod to the past, too (it's the same place that made the pizza Walt through on the roof when he was upset at Sky -- and the same pizza that implausibly stayed in one piece!).
Snaploud said:
That might be part of it, but I also think that Mike was just angry with Walt. After all, if Gale hadn't been murdered, Victor would never had been sent to the crime scene, wouldn't have been seen by the police, and wouldn't have been killed by Gus. Mike just wants to be a guy doing a job, but Walt is making that increasingly difficult for him to do.
The ret-con with the pizza place was a nice nod to the past, too (it's the same place that made the pizza Walt through on the roof when he was upset at Sky -- and the same pizza that implausibly stayed in one piece!).
That pizza was discussed last year in the season 3 thread. Some of us thought that the pizza landing on the roof was unintentional and that they just went with it. As for it staying in one piece, maybe if the cheese was melted together, it wouldn't fly apart too easily.
^ Interesting. Now we know.
This last episode was one of the best directed episodes of television that I've seen.
That's one of my all-time favourite DVD features, if only for the title - "Pizza of Destiny".
Oh yes! Can't forget about the RoombaCam!
As much as I love Bryan Cranston in the role...this guy would have made an interesting Walt:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6573281/if-breaking-bad-starred-bill-nye
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6573281/if-breaking-bad-starred-bill-nye
Haha I grew up watching Bill Nye on this local sketch comedy show here in Seattle called Almost Live! in the late 80's/early 90's. It used to air right before SNL. Joel McHale also got his start on that show.
Here's one of Bill's most infamous characters from that show: SPEEDWALKER!
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRuRYvJkCQ[/yt]
Here's one of Bill's most infamous characters from that show: SPEEDWALKER!
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRuRYvJkCQ[/yt]
Frankly, I'm finding my interest in this show is drifting away...where are they going with all this? The episodes are covering stuff that should be gripping but somehow just isn't.
The interest of Walt sliding down into villainy is gone, since he now is a villain. Ditto for Skyler now. The stuff with Hank and Marie is too obvious, I feel like I've seen it before. Jesse is still interesting since he's on the edge of a meltdown, but they need to do something with it soon. Why are they continuing to ignore Walt, Jr? Integrating him into the story would at least be something new.
The interest of Walt sliding down into villainy is gone, since he now is a villain. Ditto for Skyler now. The stuff with Hank and Marie is too obvious, I feel like I've seen it before. Jesse is still interesting since he's on the edge of a meltdown, but they need to do something with it soon. Why are they continuing to ignore Walt, Jr? Integrating him into the story would at least be something new.
They're playing around with Walt had cancer and lost his head and made some mistakes and now he's just trying to defend himself, I guess. The idea being that they can show his descent into villainy. What they showed previously was a guy who was broken by the fear of dying a failure instead of partner in Gray Matters and took reckless chances because he was determined to finally win. And he became a villain. Further descent into villainy is gilding the lily and making it because he's just got to save himself from nasty old Fring undoes what's already been done. Plus, plotwise, he still has his ricin recipe. Fring shouldn't have a prayer, especially if Walt rationalizes not worrying about innocent bystanders.
Jesse in a strange way still has a kind of integrity left, so what should be left is showing Walt's final undoing of Jesse, whether it's selling him out to Fring or sending him into a trap or whatever, because Walt's a Bad Dad who screws over his own "son." Walt, at least the real Walt (as opposed to stall the plot Walt, like the loopy guy who wasted half of last season spinning his wheels,) deeply, deeply resents Walt Jr. But the revelation of this should be the climax. Besides in Hollywood, CP isn't sexy.
As usual, absurdly twisting the plot and inadvertently undoing the theme and reversing character development is the price of open ended serialization.
Jesse in a strange way still has a kind of integrity left, so what should be left is showing Walt's final undoing of Jesse, whether it's selling him out to Fring or sending him into a trap or whatever, because Walt's a Bad Dad who screws over his own "son." Walt, at least the real Walt (as opposed to stall the plot Walt, like the loopy guy who wasted half of last season spinning his wheels,) deeply, deeply resents Walt Jr. But the revelation of this should be the climax. Besides in Hollywood, CP isn't sexy.
As usual, absurdly twisting the plot and inadvertently undoing the theme and reversing character development is the price of open ended serialization.
I assume that we have Walt's rise to becoming a major drug lord to look forward to. That and how Hank will react when he finds out what's been going on.
I'm tending to agree with Temis at this point. This past episode I found my interest wavering. So far everything this season has been a reaction to something set up in the previous season. Nothing really new has been introduced. I enjoyed Marie being a crazy cleptomanic again, but we've seen that before too.
It does feel like they are laying the foundation for something but I wish that they'd get to the point already.
The cinematography and direction remains excellent as it has been throughout the series but the story seems not quite as interesting, yet.
It does feel like they are laying the foundation for something but I wish that they'd get to the point already.
The cinematography and direction remains excellent as it has been throughout the series but the story seems not quite as interesting, yet.
I'm feeling the complete opposite. I'm still pretty intrigued and invested with this show. Sure the plot is slowly moving along, but I feel we're in character building maybe even rebuilding territory at the moment. The next episode looks like it will move the plot forward for sure.
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