I'm still curious about Gus' background in Chile. That's been kept deliberately mysterious and I'm wondering if there's more to it.
Breaking Bad - Season 4
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Over at the AV Club (where he's breaking down the season, episode by episode), Vince Gilligan said that the writers haven't developed anything more about Gus' background than what's been established on-screen. He speculates that it must have something to do with the Pinochet government, but unless a reason comes up to elaborate upon that on screen, he's comfortable leaving it a little mysterious.
I'm glad that I ducked out of this place and watched the last two episodes back to back, sans spoilers or even temptations. 
I wondered that, too. Did they weight the gun? Did Brian Cranston put in a lot of gun-spinning practice? That was right up there with the pizza on the roof.
The stretch for me is why Walt felt he needed to do it at all. Jesse wasn't his enemy, and didn't need to be turned against Gus. Earlier I thought the writers were trying to push Jesse into Gus' camp but that never actually occurred - which is weird because in retrospect it would have made the story work much better.
And ultimately it wasn't Walt poisoning Brock that did Gus in, but Jesse remembering the detail about Gus' visits to the nursing home, and the only reason that was valuable to Walt is Gus' inexplicable psychic abilities in the parking garage (which equally inexpliacbly, failed him at the nursing home.)
So why was the poisoning angle even needed? Other than to provide a badass twist to shock the viewers, that is. What appears to have been an ingenious plan actually falls apart on greater inspection, and in fact, hinges on some very convenient writing.
But I don't care, it was fun to watch as it happened and anything can be picked to shreds after the fact.
I wondered that, too. Did they weight the gun? Did Brian Cranston put in a lot of gun-spinning practice? That was right up there with the pizza on the roof.
The stretch for me is why Walt felt he needed to do it at all. Jesse wasn't his enemy, and didn't need to be turned against Gus. Earlier I thought the writers were trying to push Jesse into Gus' camp but that never actually occurred - which is weird because in retrospect it would have made the story work much better.
And ultimately it wasn't Walt poisoning Brock that did Gus in, but Jesse remembering the detail about Gus' visits to the nursing home, and the only reason that was valuable to Walt is Gus' inexplicable psychic abilities in the parking garage (which equally inexpliacbly, failed him at the nursing home.)
So why was the poisoning angle even needed? Other than to provide a badass twist to shock the viewers, that is. What appears to have been an ingenious plan actually falls apart on greater inspection, and in fact, hinges on some very convenient writing.
But I don't care, it was fun to watch as it happened and anything can be picked to shreds after the fact.
The poisoning angle was needed to turn Jesse against Gus. At the time shit went down with Brock, Jesse had told Walt in no uncertain terms that he never wanted to see him again. While Walt was waiting for the end to come to him, he apparently hatched this idea to make Gus look like a monster so Jesse would come back to Walt's side. Presumably, Walt had already planned out his whole strategy to lure Gus to the hospital and kill him with the car bomb.
The rest, Walt made up as he went. He needed another place he could reliably lure Gus to, and Jesse so happened to know just the chess piece to move. It's a stretch and things work out a bit too easily for Walt, but I'm okay with that since it will surely come back to bite him in the ass later.
The rest, Walt made up as he went. He needed another place he could reliably lure Gus to, and Jesse so happened to know just the chess piece to move. It's a stretch and things work out a bit too easily for Walt, but I'm okay with that since it will surely come back to bite him in the ass later.
Oh yes, next season we need to see Hank find out about Walt's drug dealing and Jesse find out about Walt poisoning Brock. And I hope Saul is smack in the middle of everything. I love Saul's reactions ("now I know what to name my anal polyps") to being caught in an ongoing series of shitstorms even he could never have imagined.
And since Gus was murdered in an incredibly suspicious way, will the DEA finally start taking Hank seriously? Not to mention the industrial laundry, which will probably register on the drug sniffing dogs' noses when they inspect the smoking remains now.
And since Gus was murdered in an incredibly suspicious way, will the DEA finally start taking Hank seriously? Not to mention the industrial laundry, which will probably register on the drug sniffing dogs' noses when they inspect the smoking remains now.
If the DEA don't take Hank seriously after Gus' murder by a known member of the Mexican drug cartel (and an accomplice, obviously) the show will no longer be believable. It seems like a forgone conclusion that it will be a major plot point going forward.
I do wonder if Walt will ever confess to Jesse that he watched Jesse's girlfriend die and did nothing. That's a shoe still waiting to drop, I think.
I do wonder if Walt will ever confess to Jesse that he watched Jesse's girlfriend die and did nothing. That's a shoe still waiting to drop, I think.
I read somewhere, but I can't remember where, that the finale was originally going to end with some sort of cliffhanger involving Hank and his investigation, but they cut it out because they didn't want to have too much shocking stuff in the episode. So it seems like they have something in the works involving Hank next season.
Personally, I'm glad this wasn't a cliffhanger ending. I only just got used to watching the show weekly, going cold turkey on a cliffhanger similar to season 3's would have been unbearable.
Personally, I'm glad this wasn't a cliffhanger ending. I only just got used to watching the show weekly, going cold turkey on a cliffhanger similar to season 3's would have been unbearable.
And the fire at the laundry facility. Hank's theory should be pretty much 100% confirmed.
Are there security cameras at the laundry facility? If the DEA seized all of Gus' archive, wouldn't they see Walt and Jesse coming out of the hidden stairs and then pull the fire alarm? Or possibly any other interactions caught on tape at the chicken shack involving Gus, Walt and Jesse?
Yeah, the DEA should definitely be listening to Hank now. He was the only one who really suspected Fring, and then the guy is assassinated by a former cartel member? And it could hardly be a coincidence that the very same day an industrial laundry owned by the same conglomerate as Fring's restaurants also goes up in flames.
On the other hand, it's unlikely to come back on Walt since the circumstances make it look like retaliation for the cartel massacre. Gus wipes out the cartel leadership, the cartel strikes back, killing Gus and destroying his meth superlab. It's perfect as it casts no suspicion on Walt.
And what if Hank concludes that Gus was, in fact, Heisenberg? He fits the profile: the intelligence, the caution, the attention to detail.
All this should give Walt quite the sense of security, which will make it all the more entertaining once everything comes crashing down.
On the other hand, it's unlikely to come back on Walt since the circumstances make it look like retaliation for the cartel massacre. Gus wipes out the cartel leadership, the cartel strikes back, killing Gus and destroying his meth superlab. It's perfect as it casts no suspicion on Walt.
And what if Hank concludes that Gus was, in fact, Heisenberg? He fits the profile: the intelligence, the caution, the attention to detail.
All this should give Walt quite the sense of security, which will make it all the more entertaining once everything comes crashing down.
There are definitely cameras in at least some parts of the facility; they feed into Gus' office.
Now, given his death and the plant explosion you'd think that whoever's left in his organization would be hurriedly covering their tracks.
No, that was to be the finale to the first season had the first season not been cut short by the writer's strike.
I'd like to see Hank dig into the German company that owns Pollos Hermanos and provided equipment to the laundry.
Actually, it was the season 4 finale, and I just remembered where I heard it, it was on this week's BrBa Insider podcast, around the 56 minute mark. The writers had some big scene involving Hank that they had been throwing around all season and they wanted it in the finale, but they ended up dropping it because "It would have been overload, people's head's would have exploded." They said it will probably feature in season 5.
I suppose the owners could scramble and make up some story about the fire being innocuous, but I'd be embarrassed for the DEA if they just buy that without making some attempt to investigate. There must be chemical residues all over the place. How could they ever clean up the site? They'd have to bulldoze it and seal it over in concrete.
I don't think there's anything the owners could do to cover it up. The Fire Department would be called, and the fire marshall would conduct a full investigation of what happened; that the fire started in a small, hidden facility full of machinery and chemicals would be immediately apparent to the people responding to the fire.
Also, there are two corpses in the lab, with gunshot wounds. They are probably burnt beyond recognition, but something will still remain ...
Why didn't they liquefy the corpses...?
Maybe they did that offscreen? Or the liquefying takes a while and they didn't think they had time.
Hm, interesting.
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