It had a kind of surrealistic feel to it--in fact at first I thought it might have been some kind of internal daydream-type sequence going on in Walt's head.
Breaking Bad - Season 3
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It had a kind of surrealistic feel to it--in fact at first I thought it might have been some kind of internal daydream-type sequence going on in Walt's head.
^ Now that you mention it, so did I.
Logically speaking you are totally correct, but there was something about the way that scene was shot and edited that IMO gave it a dreamlike quality.
There has never been any indication that Gale would get a cut of Walt's $3 million.
The main point about Walt's lies to Gale & Gus is that they are ridiculously transparent, to the point of being imminently dangerous, because he is such a obvious liar to everyone. This is the strongest indication that Walt is not the cautious criminal that everyone believes him to be. In reality, he is particularly unstable, & overwhelmingly driven by his current emotional state.
I suspect that Walt genuinely felt guilty about Jesse, & that, coupled with a distrust of Gale, is what convinced him to opt for Jesse as his partenr
The likely distrust of Gale comes almost exclusively from the fact that this is Walt's formula, & to share this with someone who might be an equal on his skill level, is paramount to writing your own extinction. This may not have actually been Gus' plan, but Walt isn't that brilliant of a criminal, & it's very possible that he could perceive it this way
I don't think it was ever specifically statedI thought that the whole reason Walt wanted to bring in Jesse as a partner was to get him to drop the charges against Hank.
No it wasn't. That just seemed to me to be his most obvious motivation.I don't think it was ever specifically statedI thought that the whole reason Walt wanted to bring in Jesse as a partner was to get him to drop the charges against Hank.
No it wasn't. That just seemed to me to be his most obvious motivation.I don't think it was ever specifically statedI thought that the whole reason Walt wanted to bring in Jesse as a partner was to get him to drop the charges against Hank.
It wouldn't explain getting rid of Gale, though. Just look at Walt's discomfort with Gale. It seems clear that Walt was uncomfortable having somebody so knowledgeable and competent working with him. Walt likes to be in charge, and he likes to feel smarter than those around him. He was also probably concerned about being replaced.
Sure, he wanted to get Jesse to back down regarding Hank, but the offer of a partnership and $1.5 million was a little bit over-kill. It's only really explainable if you add in Walt's psychological issues (a desire to be the smart one in his working relations, a desire to feel he cannot possibly be replaced, a desire to have contact with a son-figure who respects his work, etc.). Anybody else would have just offered some cash (gradually working their way up to an acceptable figure), but Walt has a lot of psychological baggage leading him to make his decisions.
I thought it seemed pretty clear that Gale was there to learn Walts secrets. Gustavo repeatedly says he only needed a few months of Walter White's time. Even to the twins and tuco's father he only asked for a certain amount of time. If he's really trying to make a power move, why would he only want a few months worth of meth produced? It's the whole "give a man a fish" thing, a guy on that level would want to know how to do it on his own. The one thing that bugged me was that Walt couldn't come up with a better excuse to Gustavo for wanting Jesse back. All he really needed to say was that he needed a subordinate more than a colleague.
The twins are really starting to bug me. I sort of let some of the stupidness slide because it was interesting, but now it's sort of impinging on the integrity of the shows universe. It's like these guys walked in to this universe from a lesser, cheesier tv show. When they showed them as kids, I was hoping maybe they would show them both as being kind of retarded or idiotic, so as to at least explain why they seem to be acting in such idiotic ways. But all we got was some cliche "shocking" lesson for the kids. Also, it's already bad enough that they're acting like two first generation terminators, bud did they really need to recreate the legless crawl from terminator also?
It did also bug me how easy it was for Jesse to get back with Walt. On the Shield, when the team fractured, it was amazingly tense, and that fracture never really ever fixes itself on the show. Here, it lasts a few episodes, then everything goes back pretty easily. It felt like they were building something great there, then it kind of petered out.
The stuff in the hospital was pretty good I thought. Skyler coming to the defense of Walt. Walt Jr. sudden coldness to his father. Hanks wife lashing out at everyone. The interplay with Gustavo and the DEA and Walt. I just wish they had left the issue of Jesse pressing charges to go on another episode or two. It got resolved a bit quickly for my taste.
I'm finding myself liking Walt less and less and more pitying him than anything. Hank on the other hand is a character that has grown on me quite a bit, and I'm actually more interested in his fate than Walt's at this point. He's a far more relate-able individual and probably has the most believable writing on the show.
I just assumed that Walt was only allowed one assistant. I would think Gus would want the number of people involved kept to a bare minimum.
I have to admit that I never even thought about Gus using Gale to get Walt's secrets, and that Gale would eventually replace Walt. If that's the case though, it doesn't seem like Gus wouldn't have allowed Walt to make the change.
If they were starting to bug you, then it's a good thing you no longer have to worry about them.
It definitely felt like Gale was meant to replace Walt as his long-term employment was very unlikely until this last episode. Dollars to donuts Gale had the right temperature on the vat all along and Walt was just trying to sabotage him too.
I agree with others that it was Walt's control freak/egomania along with his insecurity about Gale replacing him that led to Gale's sacking. It seems to me this is the kind of job you don't just get fired from though. A disgruntled employee that knows the location of your high-tech, super-secret drug lab that points right back to you is something you can't have. One anonymous tip and you go to Club Fed for a long time.
I agree with others that it was Walt's control freak/egomania along with his insecurity about Gale replacing him that led to Gale's sacking. It seems to me this is the kind of job you don't just get fired from though. A disgruntled employee that knows the location of your high-tech, super-secret drug lab that points right back to you is something you can't have. One anonymous tip and you go to Club Fed for a long time.
Definitely disagree with this. Walt liked chemistry guy. His sole reason for getting rid of him was to be able to bring Jesse back into the fold so he could "control" Jesse - make it worth his while to drop his lawsuit against Hank and the DEA.
The fact that Jesse could have worked alongside Hank and chemistry guy is irrelevant. For purposes of the story, it was apparently deemed to not be feasible.
Nope. I caught all those looks. I just interpreted the meaning behind them differently. Walt was enjoying, and was somewhat surprised with working with a real professional as opposed to the idiotic but lovable Jesse.
Why would Walt be jealous of chemistry guy? Walt knew he was the guy. Otherwise Gustavo would simply have given chemistry guy his little drug lab rather than Walt.
Well okay, why would Walt feel like Gale was competition? As I previously wrote, Walt knew he was the man. Gustavo needed Walt to cook, otherwise, he could simply have used Gale to cook.
I read further up thread about the whole 2 month thing. I interpreted that as Gus simply buying time for Walt from the cartel and Tucco's cousins.
Now that Gus has helped bring cartel guy down and has killed Tucco's remaining cousin, my guess is that he will want Walt to cook for him full time for a long time.
Walt didn't start to undermine Gale's work until after Hank attacked Jesse and Walt found out about Jesse's lawsuit. In fact, as I recall, Walt didn't make a move against Gale until after Skylar called him and asked him to get Jesse to drop the lawsuit.
Because of his friendship with Hank and maybe because Walt still wants Skylar back, he gets rid of Gale so he can bring Jesse close in order to control him. It all seemed pretty obvious to me.
