Boycotting Thor
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Switch two commas to semi-colons, taking out an article or preposition following, and I could live with it.
This group's boycott will amount to absolutely nothing. All forward-thinking fans of the Thor comics will go see the movie -- the intended audience -- not a bunch of fascist, racist assholes.
BTW, the trailer is awesome! Anthony Hopkins as Odin -- great casting! Idris Elba as Heimdall also appears awesome, as Heimdall has a somewhat more important role in the old Norse myths vis-a-vis Ragnarok. I hope they incorporate some of his more interesting abilities, that is, his incredibly keen senses, as he can hear the wool on a sheep's back growing, stuff like that.
As someone mentioned, the Asgard in the comics and in this movie appears to be so advanced that magic and science are indistinguishable, as Thor says at one point in the trailer.
I also want to throw in a thought regarding the "skin color" of Asgardians. In the old myths, they did have "light elves" and "dark elves," as well as other gods like the Vanir, who were not the Aesir. I think it's possible you have "light Asgardians," and "dark Asgardians," if you want to expand the different elves into the mix.
BTW, the trailer is awesome! Anthony Hopkins as Odin -- great casting! Idris Elba as Heimdall also appears awesome, as Heimdall has a somewhat more important role in the old Norse myths vis-a-vis Ragnarok. I hope they incorporate some of his more interesting abilities, that is, his incredibly keen senses, as he can hear the wool on a sheep's back growing, stuff like that.
As someone mentioned, the Asgard in the comics and in this movie appears to be so advanced that magic and science are indistinguishable, as Thor says at one point in the trailer.
I also want to throw in a thought regarding the "skin color" of Asgardians. In the old myths, they did have "light elves" and "dark elves," as well as other gods like the Vanir, who were not the Aesir. I think it's possible you have "light Asgardians," and "dark Asgardians," if you want to expand the different elves into the mix.
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Asgard is (classically in Marvel Mythology, hell there was a time when Asgard was dumped into the Negative Zone.)a rock that floats in some unquantifiable ether which is not acted upon by any notable light source like a sun. Further more Asgard didn't spin on it's axis or revolve around a light/heat source to say that any area is less or more acted by a heat light source. Add to he fact Asgardian super human invulnerability, there shouldn't be a light source that effects their pigmentation that doesn melt rock and ignite their ionosphere.
Manbe they didn't follow a similar evolutionary path to us, moving from hominoids to saipens which at our best guess can only be described as "black" and it is only running away from "Eden" to places with sensible or controllable to just plain shitty weather, that white people (and others) "faded" into existence...
Am I making myself clear?
All the Asgardians should logically be Black.
Manbe they didn't follow a similar evolutionary path to us, moving from hominoids to saipens which at our best guess can only be described as "black" and it is only running away from "Eden" to places with sensible or controllable to just plain shitty weather, that white people (and others) "faded" into existence...
Am I making myself clear?
All the Asgardians should logically be Black.
Actually if Asgard had no natural light source, there would be no need for Asgardians to have pigmentation at all. They should logically be albino.
Good point about the Svartalfheim "dark elves". The Vanir were described in the Eddas as "dark" but I never thought much about it, whether that meant skin or just hair colouring. But mainly who cares. I mean it's not like they're casting Asian cartoon characters with white actors.
Good point about the Svartalfheim "dark elves". The Vanir were described in the Eddas as "dark" but I never thought much about it, whether that meant skin or just hair colouring. But mainly who cares. I mean it's not like they're casting Asian cartoon characters with white actors.
^About the Vanir: As I recall from my reading of Norse mythology, the Vanir were supposed to represent earlier people who either the Vikings supplanted or were invaders who were repelled, so they tended to represent outsiders. According to the myths of the Vanir, they were fertility gods, while the Aesir were war gods. Also, Njord (god of the sea), Frey and Freyr, brother and sister who represented fertility, and who were Vanir, came to live with the Aesir in Asgard.
Heimdall certainly seems to conform to the idea of a war god, although he's also supposed to be a god of light, much like Balder. Unfortunately, there is no Balder in the new movie, which is too bad, as he's supposed to be Thor's closest friend among the gods.
As for light sources and how Asgard does or does not conform to what we know about solar systems and planet formation, in the trailer, we see two moon-like, or planet-like, orbs in the sky above Asgard. Wonder how they fit in.
Heimdall certainly seems to conform to the idea of a war god, although he's also supposed to be a god of light, much like Balder. Unfortunately, there is no Balder in the new movie, which is too bad, as he's supposed to be Thor's closest friend among the gods.
As for light sources and how Asgard does or does not conform to what we know about solar systems and planet formation, in the trailer, we see two moon-like, or planet-like, orbs in the sky above Asgard. Wonder how they fit in.
We should boycott!!!!
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Strange, isn't it? I just checked the full cast credits on IMDB.com, and he doesn't appear. Almost everyone else appears, including Odin's wife, Frigga (who had a minor role in the comics), Thor's buddies, the Warriors Three -- Hogun, Fandral, and Volstagg, Sif, and, of course, Jane Foster (Natalie Portman). And according to the images I saw in the trailer, even the armored creature the Destroyer makes an appearance! Maybe Balder will appear in the sequel.
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Yeah, I was about to say, if this is a one-off, then you wouldn't want to waste casting someone decent on Balder for a 30 second cameo; but if there is a sequel, then do Ragnarok'n'Roll (Simonson era) and make Balder a major character alongside Thor. But who knows what they're thinking...
Midgard, Asgard, Vanaheim, Alfheim, Svartalfheim, Jotunheim, Niflheim, Muspelheim and (maybe) Hel are the nine worlds as best as I can determine. Yes, Hel is the underworld. Any word on how much of a tour we get?
How Yggdrasil, the World Tree, fits on the map is a mystery to me.
How Yggdrasil, the World Tree, fits on the map is a mystery to me.
The OHOTMU map of the Nine Worlds.
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