Boycotting Thor

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Luminus, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. Luminus

    Luminus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jun 15, 2005
    The Singularity
  2. C_Miller

    C_Miller Captain Captain

    May 24, 2009
    Geneseo, NY
    Hip Hop DJ Elba...? I'll tell them where they can put that statement...
  3. Skywalker

    Skywalker Admiral Admiral

    Feb 24, 2005
    Back to the lower decks
    Meh. In the context of the movie, Heimdall isn't a Norse god; he's an alien. He doesn't have to look Scandinavian. Maybe the ancient Norse (in Thor's version of Earth) deliberately fudged the appearance of Heimdall's mythical counterpart when they created their mythology around the Asgardians.
  4. C_Miller

    C_Miller Captain Captain

    May 24, 2009
    Geneseo, NY
    And can we just say that Idris Elba is an insanely talented actor? I have no trouble believing that he's the best man for the job. Now if they threw in some random street talking Norse God, I might have a problem with that, because that would be entirely out of place. This isn't.
  5. P0sitr0nic

    P0sitr0nic Vice Admiral Admiral

    Sep 23, 2001
    Jedi Council
    Where were these guys when SG1 made all the norse gods into grey aliens?
  6. Professor Zoom

    Professor Zoom Admiral Admiral

    Sep 16, 2004
    He's INSANELY INSANELY brilliant.

    Yeah, I can care less.

    What's REALLY freaking is looking at the comments in the linked article. Holy shit. Some people are still upset about the Kingpin casting...!
  7. Idris Elba (stringer bell from the wire!!!!!) is awesome.

    I honestly wouldn't care if they cast HIM as Superman. That's how much i like him.
  8. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Mar 8, 2001
    And here, from the "Statement of Principles" of the Council of Conservative Citizens - the folks organizing the boycott - is the heart of the issue:

    So, you know, fuck these congenitally syphilitic inbreds.
  9. Trent Roman

    Trent Roman Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jun 5, 2001
    The Palace of Pernicious Pleasures
    The Council of Conservative Citizens is an overtly white supremacist organization. Why anybody would bother paying a whit of attention to what they say is beyond me. I'm just surprised they forgot about Tadanobu Asano.

    As to the film: if they were going for an authentic rendition of Norse mythology, then a black actor would break the illusion. But what we've seen of the trailers makes pretty clear that Marvel's Asgard is far and away not the Asgard of Norse myth but rather high-tech aliens misinterpreted as deities. In that scenario, ethnicity is irrelevant.

    Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
  10. auntiehill

    auntiehill The Blooness Premium Member

    Feb 7, 2006
    on the sofa
    Oh dear God. I mean, really.... :rolleyes:

    Just by looking at that crap, I can hear banjos playing.

    After having seen "Luther," I will gladly go see Mr. Elba read the bloody phone book.
  11. SG-17

    SG-17 Commodore Commodore

    Nov 28, 2008
    CCC pronounced in Classical Latin sounds like KKK in English. Coincidence? I think not.
  12. stj

    stj Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 27, 2006
    the real world
    I suppose if Heimdall tries to clean Thor's windshield as he's crossing the rainbow bridge those people would be happy.

    All joking aside, in the mythology is basically a security guard, until Ragnarok takes place. Isn't hiring an Idris Elba for that role kind of overkill? Shouldn't he get a real part?

    PS Comparing the unfortunate victims of sexually transmitted diseases to the CCC is horribly insensitive to those poor souls. Attributing the CCC's ideology to genetics (as in inbreeding) is unfortunately similar to attributing supposed criminality of African Americans to their genetics. The CCC is exactly what it says it it, a group of conservatives who cling to what they learned as children.
  13. label

    label Vice Admiral Admiral

    Apr 7, 2000
    Filing this under things I don't care about and wouldn't stop me from seeing the movie.

    That being said, it is a bit silly to have a Norse God (yes, I know they're aliens in the movie) be black just as it would be silly to have a White Zulu God. Whatever.....Thor's never been one of my favorite characters and I'll sacrifice some of the original stories background if it means better talent in the roles.
  14. RoJoHen

    RoJoHen Awesome Admiral

    Apr 14, 2000
    QC, IL, USA
    I think that's my main issue with this movie. I'm going to spend the whole time comparing it to SG-1! :lol:
  15. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Jul 23, 2001
    The Wormhole
    I honestly don't care what colour skin the actor playing a character based on a Norse god is. As long as he can act, that's what's important. He could have blue skin with ten arms and legs, but if he performed an Oscar-worthy performance I'd gladly overlook that his appearance is different to that of everyone else's perception of what a Norse god should be.

    In other words, get with the fucking times (directed towards this "council of consertive citizens").
  16. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Garth of Algar Premium Member

    Nov 4, 2001
    Even if the characters in the movie were Gods and not aliens, I still don't think I would care. The comic book always played fast and loose with the myths. A blonde Thor and a raven haired Sif arent exactly true to the myths either. No big deal.

    Any way we can ship these CCC idiots back to the 19th Century?
  17. Miller 2.0

    Miller 2.0 The Investigator Premium Member

    Jan 18, 2002
    Watching out for Doors and Corners
    Talk about silly. I can't wait to see this film next year.
  18. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

    Jul 16, 2001
    Isn't Thor Johnson dead?
  19. The Lensman

    The Lensman Commodore Commodore

    Apr 27, 2001
    The Lensman
    IIRC, when I used to read Thor, Heimdall was basically a bit character. Thor, on his way to Asgard or Midgard, would say something like "Hail Heimdall!" and get a "Hail Thor"...maybe a line or two and that's it.

    Also, when were Marvel's Asgardians retconned to be aliens?....because that's NOT how they were orginally conceived and written by Lee and Kirby. They were the actual gods. Asgard was a cyclic thing ending with Ragnarok and then there was a "reboot". That's why Thor looked more "superhero-y". I recall a story where he met or saw a version of himself from an earlier cycle and he looked much truer to Norse mythology.
  20. Australis

    Australis Writer Admiral

    Mar 12, 2005
    Haven't seen the Wire, I've seen him in Luther and he was dull on a stick.

    As for his casting, sorry, Norse mythology, to the best of my knowledge, was exclusively white. Not because they didn't like black people, but because they never saw any, at least until Vikings journeyed a long way south in the10th Century, well after the pantheon was established. But in reality, I don't care. If he's good in the role, really, who cares?

    Also, I get the feeling the people boycotting the film aren't that big on superhero films anyway.