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BoxOffice Prediction from Deadline Hollywood Daily

Those numbers would be rather disappointing.

What? 230M domestic is disappointing? What are you talking about?

He's talking through his hat. Paramount would be thrilled with 230 million dollars domestic, and they won't be consulting Dayton3 on whether it's "disappointing" or not.

Really? I hear he and Robert April have a wicked treatment for a Miramanee movie ready to go.
 
Anyone who thinks $230 domestic won't be good knows nothing am sorry byt what you smoking the majort of movies don't crack 100 mill and the best crack 200 (the 300 barrier is one in a hundred at best).

230 in the USA would set a grand total of at least 350 if not higher and that would be a massive success. Paramount would take less as well simple as.
 
Anyone who thinks $230 domestic won't be good knows nothing am sorry byt what you smoking the majort of movies don't crack 100 mill and the best crack 200 (the 300 barrier is one in a hundred at best).

230 in the USA would set a grand total of at least 350 if not higher and that would be a massive success. Paramount would take less as well simple as.

Not really.

Costs are a huge factor. A movie that costs over 100 million dollars is going to have VERY high box office expectations.

That is one of the reasons Paramount nearly pulled the plug on Trek movies after The Motion Picture though the movie did very well at the box office.
 
Dude Dayton3,

$230 million domestic would be more than twice what any other star trek movie has ever done... and 6 times... (6 TIMES!!!) what Nemesis did....

If that isn't success, I don't know what is...
 
Anyone who thinks $230 domestic won't be good knows nothing am sorry byt what you smoking the majort of movies don't crack 100 mill and the best crack 200 (the 300 barrier is one in a hundred at best).

230 in the USA would set a grand total of at least 350 if not higher and that would be a massive success. Paramount would take less as well simple as.

Not really.

Costs are a huge factor. A movie that costs over 100 million dollars is going to have VERY high box office expectations.

That is one of the reasons Paramount nearly pulled the plug on Trek movies after The Motion Picture though the movie did very well at the box office.

That's bullshit. They just realized they burned lots of money unnecessarily on a rushed project with a balooning budget that also had to ammortize costs from an abandoned TV show. They always wanted to continue, they just thought they could improve their profit margin by making the next one cheaper.
 
Dude Dayton3,

$230 million domestic would be more than twice what any other star trek movie has ever done... and 6 times... (6 TIMES!!!) what Nemesis did....

If that isn't success, I don't know what is...

No other Star Trek movie cost 150 million dollars to make.
 
ST09 has been hyped like no other Trek movie.
Yes, but only in America.

Here in The Netherlands I haven't seen a single trailer on TV, poster in a magazine, radio commercial or whatever else the marketing department could have come up with. All I've seen is a single review in a free newspaper. Even Insurrection had more media coverage then that.

Most people I know don't even know there's a new Star Trek movie out and some of them even watched earlier Trek series. They simply don't know.

So if it's the same in other countries, I don't think the overseas numbers will be all that high, sadly.
 
Also, the international take will probably be comparable to the domestic take.

Not if the ratios are anything like previous Trek films, most of which took around two-thirds of their total earnings domestically.
 
Dude Dayton3,

$230 million domestic would be more than twice what any other star trek movie has ever done... and 6 times... (6 TIMES!!!) what Nemesis did....

If that isn't success, I don't know what is...

No other Star Trek movie cost 150 million dollars to make.

It's like you want Trek to fail. Rush Limbaugh of the Trek scene?
 
Yes, but only in America.

Here in The Netherlands I haven't seen a single trailer on TV, poster in a magazine, radio commercial or whatever else the marketing department could have come up with. All I've seen is a single review in a free newspaper. Even Insurrection had more media coverage then that.

Most people I know don't even know there's a new Star Trek movie out and some of them even watched earlier Trek series. They simply don't know.

So if it's the same in other countries, I don't think the overseas numbers will be all that high, sadly.
The advertising has been pretty heavy here in Ireland: lots of TV ads, lots of coverage in film magazines, etc.
 
Paramount seem to be hoping for $100 million minimum worldwide thats why there banking on a $200 million+ US score. The more it does better in US might help the worldwide total because people do take notice of America around the world ;)

The next movie is always going to have a lower budget of maybe around 120-130 with a little knocked off in TV AD. Some people have been saying $140 spent on Advertising which is total B/S, the movie been heavily promoted but compared to likes of Spiderman 3 for example wich rumored to have 160/170 spent on advertising...you can clearly compare the two and reliae TREK ad is not 140. I would say no more than $100 in advertising so 250 including production budget though like its been mentioned before the ad budget is not entirely connected to the profit margin and production budget.

Paramount would be happy with 300 overall grand total pre DVD sales and any other merchandise...thats worst case which is still happy smiles and a greenlit sequel.
 
What if it makes 120 million domestically and about 70 million overseas?

Then not good and only a narrow narrow chance of any more TREK in TV/Movie media. Star Trek must must clear 150 in the US box office alone to stand a good chance of a sequel.
 
What if it makes 120 million domestically and about 70 million overseas?

Then not good and only a narrow narrow chance of any more TREK in TV/Movie media. Star Trek must must clear 150 in the US box office alone to stand a good chance of a sequel.

Several previous Trek movies have had their box office drop by 50% after the first week and then 50% after the second week. And so on.

A 70 million opening weekend then would translate into a 150 million or so over a 9-10 weeks running time in major U.S. theatres.
 
What if it makes 120 million domestically and about 70 million overseas?

Then not good and only a narrow narrow chance of any more TREK in TV/Movie media. Star Trek must must clear 150 in the US box office alone to stand a good chance of a sequel.

Several previous Trek movies have had their box office drop by 50% after the first week and then 50% after the second week. And so on.

A 70 million opening weekend then would translate into a 150 million or so over a 9-10 weeks running time in major U.S. theatres.

new fans and brining back old ones = better legs.

Also inflation for past movies make it TREK woulsd be a big hit today if we had similar turnouts like they did.
 
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