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Speaking of which, this weekend Superman surpassed the domestic box office of Dawn of Justice, the highest-grossing DCEU film directed by Zack Snyder.

This week it will pass Aquaman and Joker, and finish as the second highest DOM of any DC comics movie, after Wonder Woman.*

* Excluding three more-or-less non-DCEU Batman films: The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Returns, and The Batman.
 
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There are some really awful movies in there, except for a few. He definitely needs to change his manager.
 

There are some really awful movies in there, except for a few. He definitely needs to change his manager.
I think Jenna's list of the best movies she's seen is entirely the ones her PR team told her to do. She also said in an interview that she first starred in two movies her fans loved, and then two movies I loved. I think she doesn't care about the criticism she gets when she stars in movies like Adam Sandler. And I think the movies her fans will love are the ones where she makes more money.
 
So, would it have been better if they had the male Norin Radd Silver Surfer, but Johnny was still seriously attracted to them?



...
The more I think about that, the less it stays a rhetorical question.

That might have been great actually. Keep everything else in the movie exactly the same except make Norin Radd the Surfer.
 
WTF happened to Marvel? No really, this crash and burn must be studied thoroughly. Upper Management cannot be this fucking incompetent.

Too much content without the talent to match its output tends to lead to the MCU under-performances we are witnessing in recent years. It certainly happened to the comic book industry at various periods of its history, and on occasion, publishers learned from their mistakes but cancelling titles, dropping too many failed cash-grab spin-offs and/or getting rid of some writers and artists who simply did not raise the numbers. At present, Marvel Studios has not adopted this approach, other than reducing the number of films released per year, but that does not address the talent side of the matter.

Because the same "over a decade old film" is still fresh in people's memories, lots of dialogue still get quoted to this day, scenes from the movie are memed and were copied in the Flash more than a decade later.
The new movie despite being called a box office win is basically out of the general audience memories within a month.
Anti-Snyder fans cannot accept that.

Agreed. In fact, I'm not seeing a good number of people referencing the Gunn film in any particular way.It was released, and its...just here. Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy--a film about a comic book group next to no non-comic book reader was aware of before the movies--generated more of a pop cultural footprint than Gunn's Superman--the latter featuring of the most known, commercialized fictional characters in history. Hmm...

Let’s see what I remember from the 2025 superman

-1A! 1A!
- The opening flying sequence
-Kara drunk behavior
:D


Disney is the red button guy.

They like making money. Put another way: they really don't like losing money.

But they like being woke more.

Diverse content and making money are not strange bedfellows--at least from time to time. Black Panther--obviously a great success--was accused of being "woke" by cretins such as Right Wing dullards Dave Rubin and Alex Jones, to name a few, yet they had no explanation for the film's success, other than pulling fantasies out of their butts, which concluded audiences were somehow "brainwashed" or "shamed" into paying for a film they really did not want to see. Yeah, that's what you get from the Right Wing brain trust.

Certain folks have spent two years pissing on Gunn and his Superman movie at every single opportunity. So, yes there is a certain amount of giddy from the folks who decided to wait and give the film a chance and getting to see it perform well. Not because they dislike Man of Steel, but because they dislike the folks who are its most ardent supporters.

There's a significant difference between what you've described and the obsessed Snyder-haters who were attacking the man long before Gunn was hired by WB, and continue to attack both the films and Snyder to this day, clawing and whining about a version of fictional characters to disturbing degrees, instead of ignoring it.

This isn't hard. I personally don't see it getting to $625 million, but it would be tasty if it hits that $670 million mark without robust international numbers.

...take it away, Set Harth...

There's that number again!

Why does everyone seem to care about that number so much...

Obsessive hate. Of course, we know the number--$670,145,518--is Man of Steel's worldwide box office, making it the unquestioned most successful Superman movie in history, and that is driving certain people beyond their usual fits of rage where Snyder's film is concerned. One moment, they are all about box office when the Gunn film reached certain numbers they wish to promote, then, in daily hypocritical fashion, decry box office references / comparisons as a negative, only to turn around and--as you point out--care so much about that number. Obsessive hatred strikes again.
 
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After 31 days in release, Superman has outpaced its predecessor Man of Steel by over 50 million dollars during the same period. MoS would go on to earn another ten million; Superman will do at least that much and most likely more.
 
There are cinema accounts on Twitter complaining that movies taking 45 days to "arrive" on iTunes etc. is hurting the "theaters" and damaging the box office. Yes, it is hurting. There should be another 90-day period between "theaters" and iTunes, but the big Hollywood companies don't care. If "theaters" don't own it, why do you care?
 
There are cinema accounts on Twitter complaining that movies taking 45 days to "arrive" on iTunes etc. is hurting the "theaters" and damaging the box office. Yes, it is hurting. There should be another 90-day period between "theaters" and iTunes, but the big Hollywood companies don't care. If "theaters" don't own it, why do you care?

A dollar today is worth more than a dollar ninety days from now.
 
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After 31 days in release, Superman has outpaced its predecessor Man of Steel by over 50 million dollars during the same period. MoS would go on to earn another ten million; Superman will do at least that much and most likely more.

Good "word of mouth" equals staying power. Although I enjoyed MCU films in recent years that didn't do well financially, I do understand why others didn't like them (mostly).
 
Your personal tastes aside the box office for all those movies paint a different picture.

So? I could care two things about that; jack and shit.

If I like a movie, I like it. Don't care what others think, don't care about box office. Yes, financial succes is important, if it means they'll make more MCU. If they stop making MCU stuff, my life won't be over. There will be others things to watch.
And just because these movies didn't make a lot of money, it doesn't mean they were bad. It means people didn't go to the cinema. I can name, besides myself, at least five people who are visiting the cinema's less and less because of rising costs. And time issues. So I'll wait for the movie to be released on D+ or Netflix or whatever.
This has been explained to you, but you choose to ignore it because these facts would force you to change your worldview. And you don't like that.
 
It means people didn't go to the cinema. I can name, besides myself, at least five people who are visiting the cinema's less and less because of rising costs.

No closed captions, no pause button, excessive cost and, sometimes, unruliness from folks keep me firmly in the group that would much rather view things at home unless I think it is something that might be served by the group experience.

Superman, for me was such an experience. Heck, I’m not sure I’ll see any other DCU film at the theater even though I absolutely love the movie.
 
No closed captions, no pause button, excessive cost and, sometimes, unruliness from folks keep me firmly in the group that would much rather view things at home unless I think it is something that might be served by the group experience.

Superman, for me was such an experience. Heck, I’m not sure I’ll see any other DCU film at the theater even though I absolutely love the movie.

Brother, same.... I totally understand why cinema's have gotten expensive. Hell, either heating or AC depending on season is nuts. But I can't justify sitting there while people are being rude and my beer is 6 bucks for a bottle that costs 1,09 in a supermarket, not even mentioning the prices of chips or M&M's.
And I'm Dutch. I'm not sure how true the video's are but those brainless Americans screaming, shouting, clapping, cheering, laughing and whatnot DURING the movie at a noise level that makes it hard to understand the movie..... Fuck that shit. I've got a 49" flatscreen with several apps for streaming, better beer than the macro shit they serve at my theaters and a 300gr bag of chips that cost me less than the 100gr bag they're selling of there. Fuck that shit.
 
I'll see big movies that I'm excited about and want a premium experience with at a theater. Always IMAX, sometimes 3D as well. This year that will probably wind up being Superman, Fantastic Four, and Avatar 3.
 
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