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Spoilers Bonus scene from Season One Finale
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I've seen claims that there's a release in June, but nothing official. Some retailers have a preorder price up for it too. But still nothing official.
Pretty much the opposite. They were very accommodating with his requests and still keeping him on the show. RDA was also able to go to an Air Force award banquet to represent the show and receive an award for their portrayal of the Air Force.
I can see why. He's very good.
You totally are. RDA left the show in the eighth season but came back for two appearances in seasons 9 and another 2 in season 10. Of his season 10 appearances, one was the show's celebratory 200th episode, the other (his last) was the season's 14th (out of twenty) episodes.
RDA did return for one of SG-1's two DVD movies, and also made four appearances on Stargate Atlantis and five on Stargate Universe.
Wow, you're thorough!
It seems clear to me the whole point of giving her a black badge is to refer back to the badges they saw on Discovery in "Context is for Kings." It's sort of a Chekov Gun finally being fired. The implication here is that Mirror Lorca wasn't operating solely on his own in the Prime Universe. He was probably approached by Section 31, which would have given him access to the Spore Drive and the means to perfect it; Lorca would use the drive to defeat the Klingons, and in exchange would get to go back to his own universe and complete his revolution. Win-Win for Section 31.
This would imply they still want the Spore Drive and are willing to do all kinds of underhanded shit to make sure it stays under wraps. That also nicely solves the ethical problem with the Spore Drive: Section 31 isn't likely to CARE about that sort of thing, is it?
I think you mean BEFORE DS9? The only time we saw them again was in the 22nd and 23rd centuries when it was probably a very different kind of organization. By the 24th century they were probably a lot more underground, but in the 22nd and 23rd they were more like the Special Activities Division of the CIA.
And then Khan will below it up with a suicide-dad bomb...
That's basically what they were in STID.
It's also more or less how the SS got started, and Saddam Hussein did something similar with his paramilitary police just before he came to power.
The Starfleet Charter authorizes the things Section 31 does much like the 2nd Amendment talks about the need for a "well regulated militia." It's more about the interpretation of the charter than any legal standing they might pretend to have.
After all, moral law is for lackeys. Context is for kings.
section 31 has black uniforms, I think that calls more attention than black badges
They only wear those uniforms for effect, the way J. Bond wears a tuxedo.
I think he has a Naval uniform he occasionally wears (as Bond is a Naval Commander), but for the most part, as an MI-6 agent, he wears suits and tuxedos to blend in at high-class establishments wear everyone else (bad guys and innocents) are similarly dressed.
But, I also assume that the S31 outfit of Sloan, his lackeys, and those of Agent Harris 200 years prior, are not worn when infiltrating places.
section 31 has black uniforms, I think that calls more attention than black badges
They can just explain it away by saying they're all in a 1980s New Wave cover band.
They have a really cool song about them from Will Smith? Another not as great but still okay song also by Will Smith? A frankly terrible song by Pitbull?
I'd just like to say that I've given tremendous thought to this particular debate over the last 24 hours. It was certainly no small task to weigh all the different sides of this one, and to think very clearly about all the different angles people might be coming from given the very complex state of fandom right now. The landscape is indeed as varied and as volatile as ever.
I feel strongly that each of you, with all your knowledge and passion, will be intrigued to say the least!
All that being said, after considerable research and reflection, I've come to one absolutely undeniable fact that I want to.......wait...fuck I forgot what I was going to say. Never mind.
I feel strongly that each of you, with all your knowledge and passion, will be intrigued to say the least!
All that being said, after considerable research and reflection, I've come to one absolutely undeniable fact that I want to.......wait...fuck I forgot what I was going to say. Never mind.
Which isn't canon.
Real question is - why couldn’t make the S31 new character a Trill for real instead of a human with holographic spots???! The major negative of DIS is its lack of diversity on the ship. It’s all humans (or augmented ones)! Surely one token Kelpian won’t cut it, would it?
The great feat of Star Trek to me has always been the ability to introduce different cultures and explore them - Spock in TOS, Worf in TNG, Ferengi, Cardassians, and Bajorans in DS9, Andorians in ENT, and a lot of different ones in VOY. But I have seen none of it in DIS so far, which saddens me because it makes ST universe look smaller rather than bigger :-/
The great feat of Star Trek to me has always been the ability to introduce different cultures and explore them - Spock in TOS, Worf in TNG, Ferengi, Cardassians, and Bajorans in DS9, Andorians in ENT, and a lot of different ones in VOY. But I have seen none of it in DIS so far, which saddens me because it makes ST universe look smaller rather than bigger :-/
I don't think the S31 character is a regular character, probably a recurring one like Mudd or Georgiou.
Unless he's just a one-off who doesn't appear again and is replaced by another Section 31 operative in a future episode. I'm kind of doubting that given they introduced him with holographic makeup and a lot of dialogue, so he'll probably be coming back to reprise the role but you never know.
