Spoilers Black Widow grade and discussion thread

[Noname Given]

Oh agreed, Disney is acting in bad faith here and if true should be spanked, I'm just saying I don't know if she was likely to get as much as she thinks she should have gotten.

Well, now a court will decide (or more likely Disney will do a settlement with her as yeah, even the Mouse House doesn't like paying tons of legal fees for a situation they'll probably loose; or get to the point where they'd have to publicly disclose their streaming revenues from various sources/channels (court case are public record) <--- and they won't want to do that, so yeah, assuming their dismissal motion is denied - they'll settle, and fast.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Kevin Feige is on Scarlett's side. The situation has reportedly made him "angry and embarrassed".

https://www.ign.com/articles/kevin-...P303uKPxdnNPcHkhVahs1xRTVwj1kyY3HFuK7_2y4oXRY

 

[Saul]

She made the original contract when she was informed the release would be Theatre only. Once that changed her people TRIED to contact Disney about renegotiating because of the change to the release structure and Disney didn't even respond - not even to say "No, we don't want to renegotiate...". To me that shows Disney acting in bad faith here. When something like this is changed, it's understandable that the actor would want to talk about the change since it WOULD affect her overall compensation for her work, but Disney wouldn't even reply in any way.

Remember when WB decided to release 'Wonder Woman 84' on HBO Max and upfront gave Gadot and Jenkins $10 Million? Disney makes great stuff but their business practices leave A LOT to be desired.

Which just comes back to the point that she should've gotten a cut of the Disney+ shares, too. Give her that and problem solved. Except Disney doesn't want to do that.

Couldn't agree more. When you consider that the movie doesn't have a release in China, is boycotted in Japan by major chains and that a large amount of people paid to see it on Disney Plus, she deserves some of that. Surely disney should have more than enough money to give her since they don't have to pay the theaters anything they earned from Disney Plus.

 

[Snaploud]

Remember when WB decided to release 'Wonder Woman 84' on HBO Max and upfront gave Gadot and Jenkins $10 Million? Disney makes great stuff but their business practices leaves A LOT to be desired.

You're forgetting how HBO Max/Warner Brothers failed to do the same for all the movies released same-day in 2021 (including at least one project where another studio was the majority owner). Warner Brothers screwed up relationships with half of Hollywood with that decision, and they have been in heavy after-the-fact renegotiations ever since.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Now there are reports that Emma Stone and Emily Blunt are also considering similar suits for Cruella and Jungle Cruise, respectively.

 

[Saul]

Now there are reports that Emma Stone and Emily Blunt are also considering similar suits for Cruella and Jungle Cruise, respectively.

Interesting that Emily Blunt is considering suing but no word from The Rock. Is this only a problem for female actresses?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Interesting that Emily Blunt is considering suing but no word from The Rock. Is this only a problem for female actresses?

Well considering this is in the early stages of rumors, anything is possible and I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson joins with Blunt if she decides to proceed forward (assuming she's even considering it).

 

[Saul]

Well considering this is in the early stages of rumors, anything is possible and I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson joins with Blunt if she decides to proceed forward (assuming she's even considering it).

Or, and this is complete speculation, Johnson already got some form of payment and didn't know his co-star didn't.

 

[Noname Given]

Interesting that Emily Blunt is considering suing but no word from The Rock. Is this only a problem for female actresses?

Remember The Rock was a prominent wrestler for the WWE... In other words I'm sure he's used to this kind of sh*t when it comes to contracts, and figures he's making enough money that he doesn't want to possibly 'poison the well' between him and Disney WRT future film projects and roles.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Or, and this is complete speculation, Johnson already got some form of payment and didn't know his co-star didn't.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. Wouldn't be the first time.

Remember The Rock was a prominent wrestler for the WWE... In other words I'm sure he's used to this kind of sh*t when it comes to contracts, and figures he's making enough money that he doesn't want to possibly 'poison the well' between him and Disney WRT future film projects and roles.

That's also possible. I guess we'll see as this plays out.

 

[Saul]

Remember The Rock was a prominent wrestler for the WWE... In other words I'm sure he's used to this kind of sh*t when it comes to contracts, and figures he's making enough money that he doesn't want to possibly 'poison the well' between him and Disney WRT future film projects and roles.

I think it's the opposite. Disney doesn't want to upset the future President of the United States.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I think it's the opposite. Disney doesn't want to upset the future President of the United States.

I know you're joking but as much I love Johnson as a person and as an actor, I really don't want him running for president.

 

[The Wormhole]

I don't know if she was likely to get as much as she thinks she should have gotten.

She thinks she should have gotten a cut of the 60 million the movie made from Disney+ opening weekend (plus whatever it's made since) and would likely have gotten it.

 

[JD]

I kind of have mixed feelings on the lawsuits. These actors and actresses are already worth fortunes, and probably wouldn't be that hurt losing out on a few extra millions, but at the same time I can understand them being pissed about being screwed over by Disney.

 

[Mudd]

Disney doesn't even pay the royalties owed to tie-in writers for its properties, like Alan Dean Foster. They don't give a fuck about contracts. They're too big.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I kind of have mixed feelings on the lawsuits. These actors and actresses are already worth fortunes, and probably wouldn't be that hurt losing out on a few extra millions, but at the same time I can understand them being pissed about being screwed over by Disney.[/QUOTE 50 million dollars is far too much money to just shrug off and walk away. Besides Marvel and Disney has low-balled her contract right from the start thanks to Ike Perlmutter. This was supposed to be her long-awaited payoff for 10 years playing the character.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Remember The Rock was a prominent wrestler for the WWE... In other words I'm sure he's used to this kind of sh*t when it comes to contracts, and figures he's making enough money that he doesn't want to possibly 'poison the well' between him and Disney WRT future film projects and roles.

Or that he has structured/worded his contract such as to not be affected in the same way, perhaps for those same reasons.

 

[fireproof78]

I kind of have mixed feelings on the lawsuits. These actors and actresses are already worth fortunes, and probably wouldn't be that hurt losing out on a few extra millions, but at the same time I can understand them being pissed about being screwed over by Disney.

The fight is probably worth her while given how long it took to get a solo act. It's shady by Disney and the money not insignificant. But, at the same time, it's hard to muster up enough engagement to care. Disney is screwing people over yet people keep buying their product. Reap what you sow.

 

[theenglish]

Disney doesn't even pay the royalties owed to tie-in writers for its properties, like Alan Dean Foster. They don't give a fuck about contracts. They're too big.

Yet they will copyright properties in the public domain as much as they legally can.

I highly doubt that ScarJo is doing this because she thinks she needs the money. It sounds like a fight on principle, and she is a heavy hitter in the biz so she can actually take this fight on to set a precedent for those who don't have as much weight as she does. This is an important moment as the industry sets the rules and expectations for how film makers and creators will be compensated for their work as the industry moves toward direct to home streaming.

I can't find it now, but someone mentioned somewhere that her contract stated she wasn't allowed to work on super-hero movies from other companies--if that is true, it also might be an effort to get her out of that clause. She could go from being the Black Widow to the Black Canary.

 

[Mage]

I kind of have mixed feelings on the lawsuits. These actors and actresses are already worth fortunes, and probably wouldn't be that hurt losing out on a few extra millions, but at the same time I can understand them being pissed about being screwed over by Disney.

I understand your mixed feelings. But right now I think it's more about a statement. Yes, a lot of these names have a lot of money. But if they're being screwed over by Disney, without really being affected by it financially (although often they don't actually have 50 million on their bank accounts), what is it like for the small time people? Actors who are just starting out and have no platform to fight back because people will just ask 'who?'. Or as mentioned before, people who should get paid for writing credtis but aren't?

Right, The Mouse needs to be taken through the dirt and own up for being incredibly nasty. So if people like Johansson, Stone or Blunt can make that happen, I'm all for it.