Yeah, but it wouldn't hurt to spoiler tag for those who HAVEN'T read the spoiler? Its not the most commonly known fact about the story, anyway.
Black and white version of Deep Breath has leaked
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and it's still a spoiler.
Still, board policy requires spoilers to be covered up.
This is a screengrab from the Miami server that was accessed and the scripts and episodes taken.
Which means as much as half the season could've been grabbed!
Wow. So the first and possibly the second episode leaking is a realtive miracle, considering 4 more have done so!
Going back a bit, I don't think I'd count Rose as a regen episode.
I don't mean the 'has he just regenerated or has he been on the Titanic?' debate, just that Rose is closer to An Unearthly Child than anythingelse : for a substantial bit of the target audience, the Doctor is a new character and the job is to persuade them that he's a character they want to know more about, so they'll come back next week.
Whereas in 1966/70/74/82/87/96/Xmas 05/10/14 the job is to persuade people who already like the series that they will still like it even though the Doctor's changed (or alternatively, to persuade the people who didn't like the last one, but have given it another chance now he's gone, that they do like this new one and he's worth sticking with).
I don't mean the 'has he just regenerated or has he been on the Titanic?' debate, just that Rose is closer to An Unearthly Child than anythingelse : for a substantial bit of the target audience, the Doctor is a new character and the job is to persuade them that he's a character they want to know more about, so they'll come back next week.
Whereas in 1966/70/74/82/87/96/Xmas 05/10/14 the job is to persuade people who already like the series that they will still like it even though the Doctor's changed (or alternatively, to persuade the people who didn't like the last one, but have given it another chance now he's gone, that they do like this new one and he's worth sticking with).
Well, the Doctor looks at a mirror, sees his face and comments on it like he hasn't seen it. So, unless he's spent a lot of time on the TARDIS and hasn't seen a mirror, he only recently regenerated (as in the War Doctor gets into his TARDIS, regenerates, and almost immediately lands in Roses era of London). He isn't really effected by the regeneration as some incarnations are, so I suppose he could have spent some time just wandering around the TARDIS or unconscious, but the events of Rose still seem to be the first thing he really does post-regeneration, which is why I consider it a post regeneration story.
Well, I didn't want to get into the just happened/been a while debate; my point was that for the audience, Rose was not like other first episodes, when it was at most nine months since you last saw the previous Doctor who'd been on your telly for three or more years before that.
It's "established" he spends at least some time tracking the Nestene after the war.
What is the continuity issue - and because there's that dark ages between War Doc and Nine we'll probably never know - is how history corrected itself after the Moment was never used. Nine was supposed to be have been born "in a time of war", although in the original non-Bad Wolf interferring timeline the Moment itself may have triggered the regeneration. Nine did say though that he watched the Dalek fleet burn, so he was conscious / of sound mind and body when the Moment was activated.
They couldn't afford to do an original score for The Day of the Doctor - I don't have my hopes up getting any significant original music this year either.
Thank Han Zimmer for part of it. The batman begins piece near the end was funny
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You have a point, although that makes his comments while looking in the mirror confusing. Did he really spend any significant amount of time without seeing even a mirrored surface? It just seems weird.
There was at least one bit of possibly original music that I caught. Sounded like a Doctor/character theme with bagpipes in the background.
Because you are looking at it from the wrong angle - the line isn't meant to be for people who pick apart every line and try and fit everything together as if it is real -
it's a bit of fun and a sly wink towards an family audience who haven't seen a live action Doctor Who in a generation - that it doesn't particularly fit with some of the other lines in the episode are neither here nor there - because lots of things in Doctor Who don't fit together and never fit together because it's not that sort of show.
Ah, right. Well that's a shame.
RTD certainly didn't intend the Ninth Doctor to be recently regenerated in Rose, given that it was RTD's belief at the time that it was the Ninth Doctor that fought the Time War.
Meanwhile, this interview would seem to indicate Moffat is of the opinion that the Ninth Doctor was newly regenerated in Rose.
Meanwhile, this interview would seem to indicate Moffat is of the opinion that the Ninth Doctor was newly regenerated in Rose.
Belief? RTD created the Time War, and he very much intended the Ninth to have fought in it. Remember how he wanted the DWM comic strip to showcase Eighth's regeneration into the Ninth at the end of The Flood, but at the last minute that plan was scrapped to make way for the Ninth Doctor strip?
Really, its a fan belief. And Moffat advocating it is just pandering to the masses.
Really, its a fan belief. And Moffat advocating it is just pandering to the masses.
Well, some suggest the Doctor's line in Journey's End about being "born in fire" indicates RTD might have changed his mind about which Doctor fought in the Time War. I'm not suggesting I believe that, nor do I want to begin again the debate relating to how long prior to Rose the Doctor regenerated, I'm just pointing out that there's reason to believe RTD might have changed his mind.
But, yeah, at the time of season 1 RTD very much intended the Time War to have been fought by the Ninth Doctor.
But, yeah, at the time of season 1 RTD very much intended the Time War to have been fought by the Ninth Doctor.
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