Bioshock...the first one

[Wynterhawk]

^ Yeah, I kind of agree. The game got pretty repetetive, and I think i started to lose interest towards the end. I completed it for the sake of completing it. I thought the second one felt like a better game, although it did feel like a bit of a retread of the first, with a few minor changes.

I thoroughly enjoy playing the second one myself. I haven't finished it yet, but for atmosphere and game play, it's pretty decent. Makes me wonder if there will be a third. Maybe you'll play as a little/big sister.

I'd say I enjoyed the second one a lot more than the first one. It just felt like a better game all-round.

I think both were pretty popular, and sold pretty well, so I'd be surprised if they don't do a third.

Did you like the idea of who you were playing in the second, as opposed to your character in the first?

 

[Servo]

I thoroughly enjoy playing the second one myself. I haven't finished it yet, but for atmosphere and game play, it's pretty decent. Makes me wonder if there will be a third. Maybe you'll play as a little/big sister.

I'd say I enjoyed the second one a lot more than the first one. It just felt like a better game all-round.

I think both were pretty popular, and sold pretty well, so I'd be surprised if they don't do a third.

Did you like the idea of who you were playing in the second, as opposed to your character in the first?

Spoiler: Bioshock 2 Spoiler

They're the same character

But, to answer the question, I prefered playing as the protagonist from Bioshock 2.

 

[Wynterhawk]

^^ Re spoiler: Really?? That's interesting. I didn't play the first. I just watched some of the walkthroughs.

 

[David cgc]

I think he was being a bit of a wiseass, in that the protagonist is a faceless, nameless tabula rasa with no personality to speak of that does whatever other people tell him to.

 

[Mr Light]

I thought the first one was amazing except for that five part fetch quest at the very end of the game. The second one probably had slightly better gameplay but the story wasn't as strong and the sense of wonder wasn't quite there anymore. Still, I look forward to a third!

 

[RoJoHen]

I think he was being a bit of a wiseass, in that the protagonist is a faceless, nameless tabula rasa with no personality to speak of that does whatever other people tell him to.

I am finding myself really disliking this part of the game. It's hard for me to care about what I'm doing when I don't even know who I am.

 

[Servo]

I actually wasn't being a wiseass. Not entirely sure why, but I was under the impression that I was playing as the same guy (Jack) from the first game, who had now been turned into a Big Daddy.

Is that not the case?

 

[Timby]

I actually wasn't being a wiseass. Not entirely sure why, but I was under the impression that I was playing as the same guy (Jack) from the first game, who had now been turned into a Big Daddy.

Is that not the case?

No, it is not. In BioShock 2, your character is Subject Delta, one of the original Big Daddies who was created a few years before the events of the first game.

 

[Ayelbourne]

I think he was being a bit of a wiseass, in that the protagonist is a faceless, nameless tabula rasa with no personality to speak of that does whatever other people tell him to.

And for the sake of the plot, he has to be.
That is the most brilliant thing about this game. It takes the main weakness of most shooters and uses it to its advantage.

The moment where you finally find out who you are, is almost metafictional in that you not only reevaluate the character you're playing, but yourself as a player as well.
In that moment you realise you're basically the same as Jack.

 

[Subcommander R.]

It stands out as a really original setting and world that you're dropped into. Then it spoils it by being predictable. I was so disappointed when I discovered that after all the gorgeous scene setting I still had to run around shooting people and collecting things. I still think this would make a really original film crossover, with a good CGI budget and some decent storywriting. Rapture is such an original idea, I'd love to see it in a movie.

I second that, the concept and the visuals are the real beauty of the game. That could translate very well into film.

 

[Servo]

I actually wasn't being a wiseass. Not entirely sure why, but I was under the impression that I was playing as the same guy (Jack) from the first game, who had now been turned into a Big Daddy.

Is that not the case?

No, it is not. In BioShock 2, your character is Subject Delta, one of the original Big Daddies who was created a few years before the events of the first game.

Yeah, I knew the character was called Subject Delta, but for some reason I just figured that was the name they gave him when they turned him into a Big Daddy. Guess I wasn't paying full attention when they established his backstory.

 

[Gotham Central]

I actually wasn't being a wiseass. Not entirely sure why, but I was under the impression that I was playing as the same guy (Jack) from the first game, who had now been turned into a Big Daddy.

Is that not the case?

No, it is not. In BioShock 2, your character is Subject Delta, one of the original Big Daddies who was created a few years before the events of the first game.

Yeah, I knew the character was called Subject Delta, but for some reason I just figured that was the name they gave him when they turned him into a Big Daddy. Guess I wasn't paying full attention when they established his backstory.

Isn't the second one set 10 years after the first? My only objection to the sequel is that the little sisters are still around in the sequel. I know that when I finished the first gamw with the happy ending, it seems odd that they would still be there.

 

[Timby]

The events of the sequel take place in 1968, eight years after the original game, while Subject Delta was created two years prior to the original's events.

 

[TheBrew]

No, it is not. In BioShock 2, your character is Subject Delta, one of the original Big Daddies who was created a few years before the events of the first game.

Yeah, I knew the character was called Subject Delta, but for some reason I just figured that was the name they gave him when they turned him into a Big Daddy. Guess I wasn't paying full attention when they established his backstory.

Isn't the second one set 10 years after the first? My only objection to the sequel is that the little sisters are still around in the sequel. I know that when I finished the first gamw with the happy ending, it seems odd that they would still be there.

There aren't the same little Sisters. They were newly captured ones from the surface.

 

[Warp Coil]

I'm a casual gamer, so it's not like I have a ton of games under my belt to compare with BioShock. Having said that, BioShock and BioShock 2 are both fantastic games that really pulled me into the world of Rapture. The games have everything going for them - a good story, an incredible setting and mood, cool weapons and resources, plenty of action. I love the world of Rapture. I love the music and the visuals. When I am playing something, I typically will sit down for maybe 45 minutes to an hour, tops. But when I play BioShock, I find myself playing for 2-3 hours easily if I don't stop myself.

Oh, and I played both games on the XBox360 and have no issues with the controls. Dunno what it's like on the PS3.

 

[FordSVT]

The PS3 controller is terrible; one area in which Microsoft shits all over Sony. Maybe next generation - now that Sony isn't running this shit anymore - they'll be willing to change the design which debuted sometime back in the age of sail.

It's almost like Sony believes anyone who started playing the PS1 is incapable of using a different controller. It's a piece of shit, the d-pad is not in the right place and the triggers, as you say, are terrible. The 360 shits all over it for racing and fps games, however while I like the 360's d-pad placement the pad itself isn't as solid feeling as the PS3's for stuff like fighting games. It's not super precise.

 

[Wynterhawk]

I'm a casual gamer, so it's not like I have a ton of games under my belt to compare with BioShock. Having said that, BioShock and BioShock 2 are both fantastic games that really pulled me into the world of Rapture. The games have everything going for them - a good story, an incredible setting and mood, cool weapons and resources, plenty of action. I love the world of Rapture. I love the music and the visuals. When I am playing something, I typically will sit down for maybe 45 minutes to an hour, tops. But when I play BioShock, I find myself playing for 2-3 hours easily if I don't stop myself.

Oh, and I played both games on the XBox360 and have no issues with the controls. Dunno what it's like on the PS3.

I know what you mean about spending hours getting caught up in the game! I play on the PC and the default controls are pretty decent, considering they're defaults. I like this ship... err... game it's exciting!

 

[Yoda]

The PS3 controller is terrible; one area in which Microsoft shits all over Sony. Maybe next generation - now that Sony isn't running this shit anymore - they'll be willing to change the design which debuted sometime back in the age of sail.

It's almost like Sony believes anyone who started playing the PS1 is incapable of using a different controller. It's a piece of shit, the d-pad is not in the right place and the triggers, as you say, are terrible. The 360 shits all over it for racing and fps games, however while I like the 360's d-pad placement the pad itself isn't as solid feeling as the PS3's for stuff like fighting games. It's not super precise.

The worst part of the dual shock design is that you can see that they just basically frankensteined the analog sticks onto the damned thing. If you look at the the original playstation controller it's just a SNES ripoff with two extra shoulder buttons and weird 'paddles' to hold on that aren't particularly ergonomic anyway!

But PS2 was so ridiculously popular that most gamers I know of actually swear by that controller.

And yeah, the Xbox D-pad is pure ass. I don't love the PS3 d-pad either, i never liked the 'missing middle part', in fact it forced me to change the way I play because the way I used to rest my thumb since the NES days no longer worked. It would grind the shit out of my poor thumb, taking mere minutes to go from uncomfortable to painful. I think the last D-pad that I actually liked was the one for Sega Saturn. And not the one that shipped with it, they sold an alternate smaller 'japanese-style' one. The 'normal' US Saturn controller was kind of analogous to that angus beef hamburger that they shipped with the early versions of the original Xbox.

 

[Servo]

I don't get the dislike for the PS3 controller. I've never had a problem with it. It's never felt uncomfortable at any point, and I've had some monster gaming sessions with it. I can switch between my 360 and PS3 pads without any issue.

 

[Lookingglassman]

When I had my crappy Xbox 360 I bought this game and pretty much gave up on it. It was fun at first then I reached a level where I had to locate three items for something (I completely forgot) and I was running around the level forever killing everybody and fighitng Big Daddys and only found one of the pieces I needed. After awhile it got tedious so I traded it in for something else.