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Big Brother 17

I know you can watch the episode on cbs.com, I'm just not going to have a good chance before tonight's episode.

Clay was way ahead when the power went out, did he drop or did Liz just catch up?

Yeah, Vanessa screwed up this week. She raised on a speculative hand and didn't hit.
 
I know you can watch the episode on cbs.com, I'm just not going to have a good chance before tonight's episode.

Clay was way ahead when the power went out, did he drop or did Liz just catch up?

Yeah, Vanessa screwed up this week. She raised on a speculative hand and didn't hit.
Clay was honestly doing his best to win, and since no one had told Liz that Austin was the real target, she played to win as well, and she beat Clay by less than 2 seconds. It wasn't until after that she started complaining to people that James must have tried to throw it, since he was "moving so slow" and not making any real progress.

If you mean the squirrel/nut competition, Clay won that and took himself off the block. Earlier Austin had begged and pleaded to be given another chance, and the only reason Vanessa agreed to keep him was because the Sixth Sense needs his vote to make sure their alliance stays in control.

When discussing with the others who to put up instead of Austin, it was Jason they decided on because of all the non-Sixth Sense people, he's the one with the most ability to figure things out and the one most likely to come after Vanessa and her inner circle.

Jackie, Jason, and Meg all expected Austin to be put up, so now they're all furious with Vanessa.
 
I saw Sunday's episode with BoB, thought you were talking about the veto comp.

So basically what happened then is Austin begged his way back into the alliance.
 
I'm confused. Jason had three votes, he needed two more. So he goes after the two people he's sure are against him instead of going after John and Steve?

If they couldn't convince people that there was a six person alliance about to be formed (EVERYBODY knows about the twins), and that this was a bad thing, they are all really poor salesmen. Jason pretty much failed to sell water to a guy stranded in the desert. Instead he decided to makes a weak, desperate sales pitch to the people he already knows are against him.

And shouldn't Steve and John have been easy to win over? Steve has never been offered an alliance except by Jace, so pretty much offer him one and he'll take it. John might have been harder because he likes that people are ignoring him now, but it would have been asking him to vote against the wishes of the people who keep pawning him.
 
I'm confused. Jason had three votes, he needed two more. So he goes after the two people he's sure are against him instead of going after John and Steve?

If they couldn't convince people that there was a six person alliance about to be formed (EVERYBODY knows about the twins), and that this was a bad thing, they are all really poor salesmen. Jason pretty much failed to sell water to a guy stranded in the desert. Instead he decided to makes a weak, desperate sales pitch to the people he already knows are against him.

And shouldn't Steve and John have been easy to win over? Steve has never been offered an alliance except by Jace, so pretty much offer him one and he'll take it. John might have been harder because he likes that people are ignoring him now, but it would have been asking him to vote against the wishes of the people who keep pawning him.

That seems logical, but sometimes deals are made that don't really get a lot of air time. There may be a reason that is not clear to us. But, maybe Jason figured that, by going to Shelly and Clay, he was going to the two players who had the most influence on that side of the house.
 
I'm confused. Jason had three votes, he needed two more. So he goes after the two people he's sure are against him instead of going after John and Steve?
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And shouldn't Steve and John have been easy to win over? Steve has never been offered an alliance except by Jace, so pretty much offer him one and he'll take it. John might have been harder because he likes that people are ignoring him now, but it would have been asking him to vote against the wishes of the people who keep pawning him.
I get the impression that they've forgotten these two even exist. The only thing anyone's said to Steve in recent weeks has been Austin's "Leave, I want to talk to these other people" and Steve meekly gets up and leaves.

Damn, I'd laugh if Steve or John end up winning this thing.

Did anyone notice that both John and his younger brother have an annoying giggle?
 
Johnny Mac wouldn't have voted Becky out because that's his flirtmance (according to Julie Chen) so that would be a pointless pursuit for his vote.

During that strange aside during the Veto comp, Steve took sadistic delight in Becky dropping her nut (for some undisclosed reason). Puzzling that Jason & friends weren't able to convince him to vote for her eviction.

I laughed when Meg, Jackie and Jason were strategizing about potential votes and they considered swaying Austin and Liz to their side because, as Jackie put it, "they're really stupid." I couldn't agree more.
 
There's always much more going on than we ever get to know if we don't watch the feeds.

Steve is shown to be the one who's practically invisible to the point where the only interaction he has with anyone is with a camera that's apparently infatuated with him. But what's really going on? Do people just not want to be around him (or vice versa)? Is he having normal conversations but those aren't being shown?

John has this perpetual "deer in the headlights" thing going on - understandable, given how many times he was asked to put himself at risk for the others, with no real guarantee that it wasn't a double-cross. I think that if he'd been playing with a different group of people (less honorable people), he'd have been out the door already.
 
Steve might end up in second place but I don't see him getting votes over anyone. I'm not surprised he avoids social interaction, he was portrayed as being a socially inept stereotype from the beginning. But that's exactly why just about anyone could probably just walk up to him and offer an alliance and he'd accept it without question.
 
I honestly wouldn't be upset if either Shelly or Clay were evicted this week. Both of them made bad game moves, and what was Shelly thinking, that it wouldn't be "good" to win HoH? At this stage of the game, it's always good to win HoH.

That said, she was right to point out that James has shown that his word cannot be trusted.
 
I honestly wouldn't be upset if either Shelly or Clay were evicted this week. Both of them made bad game moves, and what was Shelly thinking, that it wouldn't be "good" to win HoH? At this stage of the game, it's always good to win HoH.

That said, she was right to point out that James has shown that his word cannot be trusted.

Yeah, as much as I approve of his nomination choices, breaking his word will haunt his future game play.
 
I am rooting for Shelli and Clay to stay in, but I'd rather Vanessa stay than either of them. I'd only be in favor of it being turned on Austin instead.

And if they do go home it would be their own fault. Last week was a disaster for their alliance. They made a move and didn't commit to it and their half-measures revealed their entire hands. They should have never targeted Austin, but once they brought Jason, Meg, Jason and Jackie in on it they were committed and shouldn't have gone back. That's just plain poor gameplay.

And WTF is up with John, Becky and Steve. Sure staying under the radar is keeping them in the house but unless they do something, anything, but just lay there and agree to be pawns, they will have zero chance to win the final vote against anyone.

Maybe they should just let Steve sleep and wake him up when it's time to lose the final vote 9-0.
 
Austin, Vanessa, Clay, Shelli and the twins are the new Nerd Herd.

I went from liking them to hating them in a span of a week.
 
Which Nerd Herd do you mean? You mean the season 6 'Papi' group? SixthSense is still much more likable than them, although they did start to show signs of the self righteous entitlement that makes players unbearable

Hopefully Jackie/James/Meg manage to mount a real resistance to make this season more interesting. If they do I probably root for them. If not, I'll root for the players who are putting in effort. It's just so irritating they haven't made any real attempt to pull in John and Becky. I'll still take 'Mildly annoying but playing the game' over 'Likable but doing nothing of strategic note'.
 
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