"Beyond" Novelization
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Nice list. Although as I recall, The Pursuit of Diana is not so much a prequel to V: The Series as a sequel to V: The Final Battle that got contradicted by the series before it came out, since the series's version of the pursuit of Diana was just a quick dogfight, crash, and capture rather than a whole novel's worth of events. So when the book came out in November or December, it had already been overwritten by the series premiere in October.
Huh.
I thought I'd got all of them back in the day, but it looks like I only got the first seven.
Anybody have any idea what Star Trek Beyond-The Collectors Edition is all about? I see that its being published by Titan, but aside from a November 15, 2016 release date, I have not seen any more information.
https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-c...?ikwid=star+trek+beyond&ikwsec=Books&ikwidx=0
https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-c...?ikwid=star+trek+beyond&ikwsec=Books&ikwidx=0
I completely agree with Dayton and Christopher! The novelization by Ann Crispin was very good, and I enjoyed the original V novels by Ann & Howard very much. Far superior to what followed on-screen...
The leading idea is that it's a book about the making of the movie.
It's a behind-the-scenes book: http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2016/07/star-trek-beyond-round-up-making-of.html
My Googling showed me that Titan has been releasing a lot of behind-the-scenes books recently that repurpose content from the official mag, so I wonder if the same goes for this? Was there enough about the making of Beyond in the mag to make a book out of it?
I did say "prelude" not "prequel". Certainly, when it was written, it was known that "V: The Series" was coming.
I sent a letter to one of Hal Schuster's "SFTV" magazines (and it was published) correcting his writer's claim/assumption that Episode 1 of "V: The Series" was actually adapted from that original novel. Several of their "V" articles would call the "Liberation Day" episode by the title "The Pursuit of Diana".
It was offered in PREVIEWS last month. To be really specific about it, it's a hardcover edition of Titan's Star Trek Beyond magazine special. So, it's not really a repurposing. Rather, it's the regular magazine (or, rather, the special magazine for the film), published as a hardcover.
Should have known you would know!
Hmm, the e-book is of the reissue, so I might skip it and look for the paperback on Amazon Marketplace or at a used bookstore. Could I just read the original stuff from AC Crispin and skip Johnson's stuff?
Is Second Generation not worth reading?
If you mean in Johnson's reissue, then no. As Dayton says, it doesn't just add stuff, it removes Crispin's adaptation of the second miniseries. So that would leave only about the first 40 percent of the original book, I'd imagine (since the two miniseries were 4 hours and 6 hours, respectively).
As I am fond of novelisation I was trying to find out if there is a novelisation for Beyond and I stumbled upon this discussion. Gutted that there is no novelisation of the movie, but thankful to have found this thread and get the insights on movie novelisation writing. Very interesting.
Sometimes fans will novelize a work when there is a strong enough desire for it. Maybe something will crop up for ST Beyond on a fan fiction site somewhere eventually. There have been fan novelizations for old TV Doctor Who stories, that it was thought would never get novelized; Resurrection, and Revelation of the Daleks. Others were novelized yet eventually got an "official" novelization later, like Shada and City of Death. The Star Wars comic, Dark Empire, is one that SW fans have wanted a novelization for, and there does exist at least one that I am aware of. It's not impossible that a talented enough fan could produce a really good adaptation of Beyond, even if it's only relegated to fan fiction sites.
Just found this news about the IDW comics post-Beyond.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/post-star-trek-beyond-comics-begin-with-boldly-go-series/
Not exactly what I was looking for (novelisation of Beyond), but it may be interesting. I had been following the previous IDW comics (tie ins with ST09 and STID). Some of them are good and providing more background/explanation to the movies, or bring back the old TOS stories into the Kelvinverse crew, some of them are meh and some are bad (which I can just ignore).
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/post-star-trek-beyond-comics-begin-with-boldly-go-series/
Not exactly what I was looking for (novelisation of Beyond), but it may be interesting. I had been following the previous IDW comics (tie ins with ST09 and STID). Some of them are good and providing more background/explanation to the movies, or bring back the old TOS stories into the Kelvinverse crew, some of them are meh and some are bad (which I can just ignore).
Hope everyone doesn't mind me bumping this very old thread. 
Like many, I was very surprised and disappointed that Beyond never had a novelization, especially after all the previous films were novelized. I thought it was a given that Beyond would have one as well. I could be wrong, but I am not expecting the Section 31 film to receive a novelization either, particularly as it is a streaming-release film rather than a theatrical film.
On novelizations in general, I have read quite a few over the years. I used to and still will read 'Junior' novelizations on occasion, but I far prefer the adult-oriented ones since they can (sometimes) really expand the story beyond the script. Currently own three - used to own more but gave them away. Air Force One, Dragonheart, and Clash of the Titans (Foster, no less)
. Love all of them.
AFO is markedly different from the film in some spots, but still a very good read.
Dragonheart is phenomenal and gives much more depth to the film like the Revenge of the Sith novelization does to that movie.
Same with Clash. Particularly like that ADF includes a paragraph showing what happened with Cassiopeia after she insults Thetis in the temple, whereas in the film she just disappears after that point until the day Andromeda is to be sacrificed.
Other novelizations:
The four Indiana Jones movie novelizations were all good IMO (though Crystal Skull is still not a very good movie.) Surprised Dial of Destiny broke the trend and still puzzled as to why. I know perfectly that the limitations of TV make this impossible, but I would have loved to see more adult novelizations like 'The Mata Hari Affair' for the entire YIJC.
X-Men - read the ones for the first 3 movies. All were great. @Greg Cox, on the subject of a movie and novelization having a different ending - X2. I watched the movie first and read the novelization later, so I was caught off guard by Jean Grey surviving, though blind, compared to her dying in the movie. Wish there could have been a novelization for Dark Phoenix.
Star Wars - 'nuff said. Foster, Glut, and Kahn did a great job with the OT novelizations, expanding the story in little ways by digging into the characters' heads and stuff. And this even though ANH and ROTJ both clocked in around 180 pages while ESB did go a little over 200. The PT novelizations are great with added material as well - but ROTS is where it really shines. Stover went all out on it. Probably my favorite of the novelizations with ROTJ a close second. Need to re-read the ST, Rogue One, and Solo, though.
And @Greg Cox, I knew about the MOS novelization but completely spaced that you wrote it! I really need to check it out sometime. I have read the Wonder Woman one and it was great. I think I was kind of aware there was a Suicide Squad one.
Honestly, since 3 of the first 4 DCEU film had novelizations, that makes it even more puzzling as to why BvS didn't get one. I wish there had been one.
And I know this may be opening a can of worms ... but I wish that Justice League could have been released in theaters as Zack Snyder envisioned and we could have gotten a novelization for it. The cut of JL that the general public got was OK, but definitely didn't feel that it followed on smoothly from MOS/BvS/WW with the shifts in tone. IMO, WB trying to overcorrect missed the mark on striking a balance between building a lighter film while still keeping to the threats that were set up in BvS. ZSJL was not perfect, but still felt more connected to the previous films than the TC of JL did.
There's some movies that I would have loved to read an adult novelization. The Winter Soldier, Civil War, Black Panther, and Infinity War/Endgame all would have been bonkers, especially in the hands of a savvy novelist. I know Alex Irvine has done novelizations for some of the MCU movies, but I consider those more 'Junior' than adult. Pirates of the Caribbean adult novelizations would be awesome too - just the first three. I loathe On Stranger Tides and Dead Men Tell No Tales is just ... OK.
Like many, I was very surprised and disappointed that Beyond never had a novelization, especially after all the previous films were novelized. I thought it was a given that Beyond would have one as well. I could be wrong, but I am not expecting the Section 31 film to receive a novelization either, particularly as it is a streaming-release film rather than a theatrical film.
On novelizations in general, I have read quite a few over the years. I used to and still will read 'Junior' novelizations on occasion, but I far prefer the adult-oriented ones since they can (sometimes) really expand the story beyond the script. Currently own three - used to own more but gave them away. Air Force One, Dragonheart, and Clash of the Titans (Foster, no less)
. Love all of them.AFO is markedly different from the film in some spots, but still a very good read.
Dragonheart is phenomenal and gives much more depth to the film like the Revenge of the Sith novelization does to that movie.
Same with Clash. Particularly like that ADF includes a paragraph showing what happened with Cassiopeia after she insults Thetis in the temple, whereas in the film she just disappears after that point until the day Andromeda is to be sacrificed.
Other novelizations:
The four Indiana Jones movie novelizations were all good IMO (though Crystal Skull is still not a very good movie.) Surprised Dial of Destiny broke the trend and still puzzled as to why. I know perfectly that the limitations of TV make this impossible, but I would have loved to see more adult novelizations like 'The Mata Hari Affair' for the entire YIJC.
X-Men - read the ones for the first 3 movies. All were great. @Greg Cox, on the subject of a movie and novelization having a different ending - X2. I watched the movie first and read the novelization later, so I was caught off guard by Jean Grey surviving, though blind, compared to her dying in the movie. Wish there could have been a novelization for Dark Phoenix.
Star Wars - 'nuff said. Foster, Glut, and Kahn did a great job with the OT novelizations, expanding the story in little ways by digging into the characters' heads and stuff. And this even though ANH and ROTJ both clocked in around 180 pages while ESB did go a little over 200. The PT novelizations are great with added material as well - but ROTS is where it really shines. Stover went all out on it. Probably my favorite of the novelizations with ROTJ a close second. Need to re-read the ST, Rogue One, and Solo, though.
And @Greg Cox, I knew about the MOS novelization but completely spaced that you wrote it! I really need to check it out sometime. I have read the Wonder Woman one and it was great. I think I was kind of aware there was a Suicide Squad one.
Honestly, since 3 of the first 4 DCEU film had novelizations, that makes it even more puzzling as to why BvS didn't get one. I wish there had been one.
And I know this may be opening a can of worms ... but I wish that Justice League could have been released in theaters as Zack Snyder envisioned and we could have gotten a novelization for it. The cut of JL that the general public got was OK, but definitely didn't feel that it followed on smoothly from MOS/BvS/WW with the shifts in tone. IMO, WB trying to overcorrect missed the mark on striking a balance between building a lighter film while still keeping to the threats that were set up in BvS. ZSJL was not perfect, but still felt more connected to the previous films than the TC of JL did.
There's some movies that I would have loved to read an adult novelization. The Winter Soldier, Civil War, Black Panther, and Infinity War/Endgame all would have been bonkers, especially in the hands of a savvy novelist. I know Alex Irvine has done novelizations for some of the MCU movies, but I consider those more 'Junior' than adult. Pirates of the Caribbean adult novelizations would be awesome too - just the first three. I loathe On Stranger Tides and Dead Men Tell No Tales is just ... OK.
Hope everyone doesn't mind me bumping this very old thread.
Like many, I was very surprised and disappointed that Beyond never had a novelization, especially after all the previous films were novelized. I thought it was a given that Beyond would have one as well. I could be wrong, but I am not expecting the Section 31 film to receive a novelization either, particularly as it is a streaming-release film rather than a theatrical film.
On novelizations in general, I have read quite a few over the years. I used to and still will read 'Junior' novelizations on occasion, but I far prefer the adult-oriented ones since they can (sometimes) really expand the story beyond the script. Currently own three - used to own more but gave them away. Air Force One, Dragonheart, and Clash of the Titans (Foster, no less)
AFO is markedly different from the film in some spots, but still a very good read.
Dragonheart is phenomenal and gives much more depth to the film like the Revenge of the Sith novelization does to that movie.
Same with Clash. Particularly like that ADF includes a paragraph showing what happened with Cassiopeia after she insults Thetis in the temple, whereas in the film she just disappears after that point until the day Andromeda is to be sacrificed.
Other novelizations:
The four Indiana Jones movie novelizations were all good IMO (though Crystal Skull is still not a very good movie.) Surprised Dial of Destiny broke the trend and still puzzled as to why. I know perfectly that the limitations of TV make this impossible, but I would have loved to see more adult novelizations like 'The Mata Hari Affair' for the entire YIJC.
X-Men - read the ones for the first 3 movies. All were great. @Greg Cox, on the subject of a movie and novelization having a different ending - X2. I watched the movie first and read the novelization later, so I was caught off guard by Jean Grey surviving, though blind, compared to her dying in the movie. Wish there could have been a novelization for Dark Phoenix.
Star Wars - 'nuff said. Foster, Glut, and Kahn did a great job with the OT novelizations, expanding the story in little ways by digging into the characters' heads and stuff. And this even though ANH and ROTJ both clocked in around 180 pages while ESB did go a little over 200. The PT novelizations are great with added material as well - but ROTS is where it really shines. Stover went all out on it. Probably my favorite of the novelizations with ROTJ a close second. Need to re-read the ST, Rogue One, and Solo, though.
And @Greg Cox, I knew about the MOS novelization but completely spaced that you wrote it! I really need to check it out sometime. I have read the Wonder Woman one and it was great. I think I was kind of aware there was a Suicide Squad one.
Honestly, since 3 of the first 4 DCEU film had novelizations, that makes it even more puzzling as to why BvS didn't get one. I wish there had been one.
And I know this may be opening a can of worms ... but I wish that Justice League could have been released in theaters as Zack Snyder envisioned and we could have gotten a novelization for it. The cut of JL that the general public got was OK, but definitely didn't feel that it followed on smoothly from MOS/BvS/WW with the shifts in tone. IMO, WB trying to overcorrect missed the mark on striking a balance between building a lighter film while still keeping to the threats that were set up in BvS. ZSJL was not perfect, but still felt more connected to the previous films than the TC of JL did.
There's some movies that I would have loved to read an adult novelization. The Winter Soldier, Civil War, Black Panther, and Infinity War/Endgame all would have been bonkers, especially in the hands of a savvy novelist. I know Alex Irvine has done novelizations for some of the MCU movies, but I consider those more 'Junior' than adult. Pirates of the Caribbean adult novelizations would be awesome too - just the first three. I loathe On Stranger Tides and Dead Men Tell No Tales is just ... OK.
Movie novelisations are a lost art — even the novel of ‘Grease’ (yes, the musical) had a great novelisation.
They still turn up, but seem much more rare these days than they used to be, and lack the charm of the colour photos in the middle that used to be common.
Last one I bought was for Ghost In The Shell, and so far haven’t really read it (ebook) sorry Jim.
I'll cop to quietly discontinuing the photo inserts when I was editing movie novelizations at Tor. At first I felt obliged to include them because, well, they were expected, right? But they were a huge pain in the ass, production-wise, that often blew my budgets and deadlines to hell. You had to pry the photos out of the studios in a timely manner, get the captions approved by the studio, make sure the right captions were attached to the right photos, and, if you wanted the photos to look decent at all, you had to have them printed on special paper and then inserted into the regular print run, all of which cost time and money and a layer of my stomach lining. (Publishing movie novelizations tends to be stressful at the best of times, because you're always on a crash schedule to get the book out in time for the movie.)
And I wasn't convinced that the photo inserts actually boosted sales enough to justify all that time and trouble.
So, I quietly stopped doing them and waited to see if anybody -- readers, reviewers, the sales force -- noticed. Nobody ever complained, so . . . .
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Wrong captions are part of the tradition! As is possibly using production or promotion photos that never occur in the story!
And ultimately, they become the fault line down which the book disintegrates so you have to hold it together with tape.
No one respects the old ways
(Ebooks don’t have many of these side effects, but I notice it’s rare for ebooks to have the multimedia content available — there was a copy of the Hobbit that included recordings of Tolkien’s reading it though.)
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