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Cliff knows Jimmy is untrustworthy but his experience of Jimmy doesn’t lead him to think he’s capable of such an elaborate long con. The worst things Cliff saw him do were run a commercial and try to get fired. It’s a big leap between that and stealing a car to stage a prostitute fight.
For a second it looked like the wife was going to get killed. Glad they didn’t go there. I wonder what about that slabbed tool made Lalo satisfied.
I'm guessing the slide rule memento was given to Ziegler by his team. Lalo identified who'd made it from the sticker on the bottom, presumably he'll track the manufacturer down (it looked bespoke) and from them get a name of one of Ziegler's team who will be able to tell him what they were working on.
That first scene with Howard where he put the peace sign on his wife's espresso, and then she just had to pour it into her mug is symbolic of who Howard is. Even his unselfish gestures are about his ego.
It feels like we're about to see the big downfall here. At the start of the episode we forebodingly find out how Saul found out about vacuum guy. Now Kim is impulsively taking a high risk play to not ruin their plans. They may be about to get caught, and have it all fall on Kim, who then needs to be vacuumed away. Which is why Gene is presumably willing to kill the witness to stay in Nebraska, it's the only thing that gives him hope to see her again.
It's heartbreaking seeing Francesca's soul die right before our eyes.
Saul and Kim were so damn confident that they have everything perfectly set up in their play against Howard that I knew something had to go wrong, no matter how menial. And sure enough, there it was. But what really hurts isn't that the plan tethers at complete failure, rather that Kim is throwing away such a great career opportunity for herself to keep that plan in alive.
Ominous indeed for the vacuum guy to be first hinted at this particular moment. Still not sure how they're going to work that angle without Robert Forester.
One last episode before the break. Standing by for one hell of a cliffhanger...
My heart burst for her seeing all of those clients just destroy the hard work she put into that décor. The cigarette butt into the armrest was especially painful.
Clearly, Jimmy is going to be the one to buy the vet's contact book. He unquestionably has those contacts in Breaking Bad. So you wonder what he's going to do to be able to afford it.
Makes you think he ends up getting the Sandpiper settlement.
After Walt was found out it would have taken very little investigation to figure out his involvement.
Just throwing an idle thought out there, do we have any direct evidence Kim’s childhood scenes are indeed flashbacks and not flash forwards? Her mother is played by the same actress after all.
Have to admit that for a second there I thought young Kim getting caught was a scam, and that her mother had put her up to it, not quite but clearly she had no problems with Kim breaking the law. Little wonder Kim is one messed up individual.
Got a bit worried as Netflix had a suicide warning at the start, guessing that's left over from Nacho? Because
I still worry that their scam is going to work so well that it'll be the final straw that pushes Howard over the edge and he kills himself and it's that that makes Kim back away and Jimmy go all in on Saul. Genuinely hope I'm wrong.
Mike stargazing with his granddaughter was sweet. Breaks my heart that all the work he's doing won't pay off (trying to remember but in BB didn't all the money he'd saved for her get stolen/confiscated?) I might be misremembering.
Nice to see the film crew again, and the vet. Nice foreshadowing of vacuum guy. Still see no reason Forester doesn't have a partner, or as I've suggested before it might be that vacuum guy at this point is someone else and Forester is his apprentice. Of they have some extra scenes of RF they can use ala Carrie Fisher in TROS? Get someone who can sound a little like him, only show footage of him from behind, it'll likely just be a short phone call. We don't need to see him pick Kim up (assuming that's what happens.)
I guessed Lalo was faking. How much can Lalo get out of that guy I wonder? Did the Germans have any idea where they were? I guess he'll know the size of the building at least which might lead Lalo to the laundry?
I still feel sorry for Howard. I think he expected her to drink the coffee with him. For all the plaudits Odenkirk and Seehorn get I still think Fabian has done a great job to imbue Howard with some humanity. He could have been a very two dimensional character.
Yeah and what the hell is going on with Jimmy and whatever the vet slipped him to make his eyes dilated? What I love about this is that I still have no clue what Jimmy and Kim's play is re Sandpiper?
Got a feeling next week's episode is going to be a doozy!
I find Howard to be irredeemably self-absorbed. As @JirinPanthosa astutely suggested, "Even his unselfish gestures are about his ego."
But, yeah, I definitely would not want to see Howard do himself in. Just retire - pass on the reigns to someone a little less mired in the albatross of extreme personal baggage. Sadly, I think he's so damned stubborn that he's going to ride the wave all the way to the beach at flank speed and wrap himself around a fishing pier foundation piling.
And agreed, all this is a testament to Fabian's acting chops.
Howard knew his wife had to leave immediately and couldn’t drink it out of that cup. But he still looked personally offended that she did not appreciate the peace sign. That’s what it was about, not getting acknowledgement for the cool thing he did.
Lalo legitimately took a hit from that ax and was hurting, he just embellished it. I expected to see Kai again, don’t know that guy’s name.
I don’t see Howard committing suicide. Maybe he gets killed in some sort of accident.
In case you guys didn't catch it, that was the same child actress who played young Kim in the previous flashback last season. I love little consistencies like that.
Mike stargazing with his granddaughter was sweet. Breaks my heart that all the work he's doing won't pay off (trying to remember but in BB didn't all the money he'd saved for her get stolen/confiscated?) I might be misremembering.
Howard knew his wife had to leave immediately and couldn’t drink it out of that cup. But he still looked personally offended that she did not appreciate the peace sign. That’s what it was about, not getting acknowledgement for the cool thing he did.
Lalo legitimately took a hit from that ax and was hurting, he just embellished it. I expected to see Kai again, don’t know that guy’s name.
I don’t see Howard committing suicide. Maybe he gets killed in some sort of accident.
I don't know. I saw a man making an effort, yes a bit over the top but he seemed to be going out of his way to try and mend fences. I think he hoped she would sit and talk.
There have been times when he's looked broken, IMO, his marriage is breaking up, he probably still feels some guilt over Chuck, and now his professional persona is being besmirched. So much of who he is is invested in appearances, the suit, the tan the car, the position of power, if all that was taken away from him who knows how he might react. Depression isn't always obvious.
Sorry I should have been clearer, Lalo definitely took the hit, as you say he just made a meal of it.
Anyone think that German guy is making it to a hospital?
Thank you, been a while since I saw BB obviously. I guess you have to hope there were other plans in place. Mike doesn't strike me as the all his eggs in one basket kinda guy.
Thank you, been a while since I saw BB obviously. I guess you have to hope there were other plans in place. Mike doesn't strike me as the all his eggs in one basket kinda guy.
Perhaps, but it would have to be in a way that DEA couldn't tie it to Mike's activities as they probably would have considered other ways Mike could have tried to have Kaylee get the money...
I don't think Mike did what Walt did to "ensure" that his kids would get the money. I used the quotation marks because there's a chance they didn't end up getting the money, especially after Walt died.
It's hard to say what kind of backup plans Mike may have had. If he did, they probably involved the money that was stashed at the airport and he probably didn't have time to execute them before he was killed.
All of it went so perfectly. I didn't see how they were going to manipulate Howard so thoroughly until the final act began to play. And then it ended perfectly.
Too damn perfectly.
I felt like some other shoe would drop. I couldn't figure out how it would go...until it happened.
I don't remember who but I'm pretty sure someone in this thread called this moment. Howard in the wrong place at exactly the wrong time...and, of course, it was Lalo. So kudos for foreseeing this moment.
We've reached the endgame. I don't know how this conversation Lalo will have with Saul and Kim will play out, but I'm very curious to see how Kim is going to cope with Howard's sudden murder. Will she blame herself for orchestrating the situation that lead Howard to be at the apartment at precisely the wrong moment (even if rationally speaking, it's not at all her fault)? Or will she drive through it and fully break bad? In the past, I thought for certain that Kim would walk away from Jimmy at least a couple of junctures (particularly that rooftop fight). But now I'm not sure how it's going to play out.
Holy shit. I thought maybe Howard getting killed would push Kim over the edge but didn’t see it happening so abruptly.
This’ll be a long two months. I don’t see how Lalo walks away from them after this. He has to be 100% convinced now Jimmy knows more than what he said and now he’s directly witnessed a murder.
The only path I really see here that isn’t instantly fatal is maybe Lalo intends to use Jimmy to draw out Mike and holds Kim hostage somewhere to ensure his loyalty.