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Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1

Dick Whitman said:
Perhaps having a 2nd very different Batwoman character is a way of clearly defining who a recast Kate Kane/Batwoman is without Ruby Rose.
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Yeah, I had the thought that they might focus on the second Batwoman for a while and then bring back Kate as a new actress, with the hiatus easing the transition from one actress to another (and maybe letting them claim cosmetic surgery or something to explain the change).


Dick Whitman said:
As unimaginable as it is to think if Stephen Amell, Grant Gustin or Melissa Benoist had left their series, I think those shows could have continued without them. It would not have been easy. But those shows have great supporting casts. I think Diggle could have been lead. Or Cisco, Wally, or Alex or J'onn. With still having strong backup characters.
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I could've seen Diggle taking over Arrow, and they also had Roy and Thea available if they wanted. And the Flash is a character with legacy built in; they could've had Wally take over or brought in Bart Allen from the future. But it's hard to see how Supergirl could continue without Kara. Unless they brought in the Matrix Supergirl, maybe.
 
Not to say I told you so guys, but I did say a straight up recast would be a massive headache.The whole show rotates around Kate and since Rose was cast first, everyone else was cast with her in mind as the principle. Dumping some other poor actress into her boots would play merry hell with the overlapping character chemistry.

Nothing about this is ideal of course, but on balance making a soft reset in season 2 is better than attempting to stay the course when the show has been decapitated. I also suspect certain other cast members are either going to get their roles radically redefined, or they're going to be let go before the season's end.

The new character's description does have a certain "Catwoman" vibe to it (how crazy would it be if they just rename the show 'Catwoman'?!) though it's hard to say if that has any bearing on what they're going for.
 
Reverend said:
Not to say I told you so guys, but I did say a straight up recast would be a massive headache.The whole show rotates around Kate and since Rose was cast first, everyone else was cast with her in mind as the principle. Dumping some other poor actress into her boots would play merry hell with the overlapping character chemistry.
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Facts not in evidence.
 
https://tvline.com/2020/06/06/why-batwoman-isnt-recasting-kate-kane-adding-new-character-season-2/

Batwoman showrunner Caroline Dries has shed some light on the decision to not recast the role of Kate Kane, in the wake of Ruby Rose abruptly parting ways with the CW series, but instead create “a whole new character” to slip into the cape and cowl for Season 2.

“To be honest with you, I did consider the ‘soap opera version’ [of recasting] for a hot minute, because selfishly we already had a couple episodes written, and transition-wise it would be seamless,” she told Plec. “But upon further reflection — and I think [Arrowverse EP] Greg [Berlanti] helped me make this call — he’s like, ‘I think we should just reboot Batwoman as a different character.'”

In addition to paying “respect to everything that Ruby [Rose] put into the Kate Kane character” during Season 1, Dries said, “it also helps the audience, because we’re not asking them to address ‘the elephant in the room'” by accepting a new face as the same person.
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Calling recasting a role the “Soap Opera Version”???!!! That is ridiculous. The idea that recasting is specific to Soaps is absurd.

They are burning a lot of fan bridges here. I am not sure I am going to check out this new show. That is what this ultimately will be, something completely different. Any momentum build in that first season is gone. With the long break they could have just treated like another actor as James Bond.

The thing I am foreseeing already is most of the beginning of next season will be characters saying she is not like Kate and/or the Batwoman we know...

That is what happens on shows that make radical changes like this. They are living in the shadow of the change and almost never get away from it. The writers and producers think outwardly acknowledgement of the change is better. Rarely works. It’s like a new girlfriend who never stops taking about their ex. Or at a new job the boss telling you how the previous person did the work and never stopping.
 
Yup, this show is done.

Should have just kept Kevin Conroy, and done a Batman Beyond/Batman INC with various characters like Batwing, Spoiler, Red Robin, Orphan, etc.
 
If I were in a position to advise the rest of the Batwoman cast, I'd tell them to plan on having to look for other work because there's no chance in hell that this show sees Season 3 (it probably won't even make it to "midseason" next year).
 
I agree with the poster above. The best thing to do is to negotiate with the CW to just create a new series with the same supporting cast.
 
DigificWriter said:
If I were in a position to advise the rest of the Batwoman cast, I'd tell them to plan on having to look for other work because there's no chance in hell that this show sees Season 3 (it probably won't even make it to "midseason" next year).
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I'll go on record to say that's wrong. Let's circle back when the renewal is announced next year. ;)
 
They could go full Baywatch and call it Gotham Nights.

It's funny that people are OK with accepting Batman being recast in the movies even in continuity like Burton/Schumacher but recasting a TV actress is a bridge too far.
 
I still havent seen Batwoman, except for her appereances in Crisis. The show doesn't air here.

I will say, this entire situation isn't making the show very appealing to watch now. I liked what I saw of Ruby Rose in the crossover, and was curious about the show itself. I'll wait and see who they cast, and perhaps a trailer for the new season. If that appeals to me, I'll see about checking out season 1.
 
Mr. Adventure said:
It's funny that people are OK with accepting Batman being recast in the movies even in continuity like Burton/Schumacher but recasting a TV actress is a bridge too far.
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Well, they weren't okay with it back then. It's safe to say there was a ton of audience uproar at the time about replacing Michael Keaton with Val Kilmer. The difference is that the filmmakers didn't let their decisions be shaped by fan reactions to the same extent, because social media didn't amplify those reactions to the same degree as today.

But here's the thing: People were upset with the recasting at the time, but now we accept it. Eventually, these controversies that get us so upset and look like they'll ruin the whole series turn out to be just one more stage of the series's evolution, and fandom comes to terms with it and moves on. So there's no reason to assume that won't happen here as well. Every major change is resisted beforehand, but most are accepted or adjusted to in the fullness of time.
 
Mr. Adventure said:
It's funny that people are OK with accepting Batman being recast in the movies even in continuity like Burton/Schumacher but recasting a TV actress is a bridge too far.
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Literally everyone was fine with recasting except the people running the show apparently. :shrug:
 
dodge said:
Literally everyone was fine with recasting except the people running the show apparently. :shrug:
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The audience doesn't call the plays. The passengers don't tell the pilots what buttons to push. The reason professionals exist is that they know their jobs better than everyone else. If we can't understand the reasons for their choices, that's because we're not the ones doing their job and we only see fragments of the decision-making process from the outside. One interview doesn't change that. It doesn't tell us 100% of their thinking, just whatever portions of it they choose to share at the moment.

Maybe this will turn out to be a mistake, or maybe it will be a brilliant choice. Or, like most things, it'll be somewhere in the middle, just muddling through as best they can when life throws curve balls at them. Whatever the case, it's their decision to make, whether we spectators understand it or not.
 
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