Was Wally West still The Flash back when the John Westly Shipp/CBS Flash series was in production? I'm faintly recalling some hubbub over choosing Barry Allen, but not entirely sure if I'm remembering correctly.
Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1
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A voice over just attacks you in a soap opera "The part of Katherine Chancellor will be played by Vince McMahon today" and then you're supposed to ride with it, as Vince starts smooching with Michael Fairman, and no one is cheating.
Because soap operas represent the touchstone of good storytelling...
As a rule, no, plays have never arbitrarily substituted brand new characters for existing ones.
a new actress doesn't have to imitate Ruby, she simply has to play the character of Kate Kane - the Batwoman, in a manner that's consistent with what we've seen so far.
Heck, any would-be replacement should be allowed creative license to take the character where ever they wanted.
They might get some input but at the end of the day, the character goes in the direction the writers and the producers want.
I'm wondering if this is going to be a situation similar to Jeffrey Sinclair/John Sheridan on Babylon 5 in that they'll replace Michael O' Hare with Bruce Boxleitner and shift some of the storylines that were meant for Kate Kane to the new character. Just a thought.
Yep. Wally was the Flash from 1986 to 2011. He was the Flash I grew up with, before all this neo-Silver Age nonsense showed up and forced Barry Allen back into the fold.
but again it misses the point - so much of the story line established in the first season is very much tied (as in personal) to the character of Kate Kane. Jacob won't have the father/daughter relationship, Alice and Mary won't be the sister/step-sister that's been a driving factor to their characters.
Yes the departure of Hare saw a new character, and shifting story lines, but other than Garabaldi's flash forward from the first season, nothing that had gone before it was tossed out the window and that character was such that JMS was able to move the storyline around etc.
Being a superhero is a rough business (or, it should be at least). Whatever happens to Kane, those characters still exist, even if only in the expansive other shows of the Arrowverse. The second season introduction of a new legacy version of Batwoman has a whole slew of creative challenges connected to it, the least of which is the continuation of their storylines independent of Kane and how they will reflect on this new Batwoman and on whatever happened to their significant loved one.
Actors have died, actors have quit, actors have even been fired before, leading to a complete overhaul of another season. I get it, Kate Kane is literally the show's Bruce Wayne. If you're making a Batman show, and you decide to get rid of Bruce Wayne, that reconceptualizes the show enormously from what is expected. Whoever you decide will be Batman II won't have the same connections as Bruce Wayne, of course... they will have to form them and bring their own, and that is what Batwoman II will be doing for probably the first half of next season, at least.
It's a creative challenge forced on the writers and creators. Perhaps they'll find a way to satisfactorily tie up some of the loose ends from Season 1 with these other characters, but they won't get them all. C'est la vie.
Here's a thought.
Alice wins.
Then she does a happy dance.
Don't you feel her pain?
Girl is due some vengeance.
Alice wins.
Then she does a happy dance.
Don't you feel her pain?
Girl is due some vengeance.
It's not at all the same.
For one thing, the B5 was never about Sinclair (or Sheridan). The easy and obvious take is that it was wholly an ensemble show with no one character's story being more important than another. And even if there was a more singular story to be had, the most common interpretations are that it was either Delenn or Londo's story. And all that aside, when O'Hare left, the only dangling plot thread was completed anyway. There was the whole relationship aspect, but if you watch season 1 by itself without any other knowledge, you wouldn't know it was there. Sure there was the whole 'wedding' thing in Parliament, but that could be anything. The only other indication was when Delenn affectionately touched Sinclair's arm in B-Squared, and they just shot that from a different angle in WWE hoping no one would notice. But imagine if they had already started the light flirtation of early season 2. It would have completely changed the dynamic.
And therein is the problem. Because the nuance of the show is told through Kate's relationships. It's the entire conceptual and thematic framework. It's impossible to just swap someone else in without resorting to massive contrivance. And even then it takes a skilled hand - one that I don't believe any of the Arrowverse writers possess.
We were talking about recasting the same role.
Oh my.
Horrible thought.
Just Horrible.
What if the new Batwoman is Alex Danvers?
Hear me out.
Kate killed someone earlier this year.
The DEO, puts her in a black site and confiscates all her toys.
Alex requisitions her stuff.
Batman's stuff.
There's a war.
Luke, Mary and Bruce hell bent on sticking it to this narc shitting on the legend of Batwoman.
Why else is Alex dressed as Nightwing, if they were not planning on moving her to Gotham in some way?
Horrible thought.
Just Horrible.
What if the new Batwoman is Alex Danvers?
Hear me out.
Kate killed someone earlier this year.
The DEO, puts her in a black site and confiscates all her toys.
Alex requisitions her stuff.
Batman's stuff.
There's a war.
Luke, Mary and Bruce hell bent on sticking it to this narc shitting on the legend of Batwoman.
Why else is Alex dressed as Nightwing, if they were not planning on moving her to Gotham in some way?
^^That would never happen, Guy, because it would mean leaving Kara behind.
That and the fact that Chyler is not an "out lesbian" actress makes your theory a nonstarter.
That and the fact that Chyler is not an "out lesbian" actress makes your theory a nonstarter.
I thought of that, but TV Line said they've confirmed the new direction is genuine. Assuming they're a reputable source (though I'm not familiar enough with them to know), that means they probably talked off the record with someone in the production to get confirmation before reporting it.
The actors straightness is a non starter.
Her husband is pretty.
But there's no leaving Kara, if you consider how fast that she can fly.
They wouldn't put out a casting call for a role that's already been cast. Unless they had issues with Chyler Leigh, and wanted to recast her and move her to another show as a lead. That'd be all sorts of confusing.
This theory of mine is totally wrong, but sometimes there is an element of fair play, that a casting call is going to happen, even if you're a hundred and 10 percent sure you know who your top choice is.
Although acting is one of the few professions where it's still legal to request defined physical parameters, ethnicity, sex, and so it would seem now to include orientation.