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Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1

I am constantly amazed by the shrieking fragility and cowardice of men who purport to be defending the strength and superiority of the masculine sex. Genuinely strong people aren't terrified by the existence of other strong people.

I'd request, though, that you don't use the word "triggered" to characterize their behavior. People like them have co-opted that word to mean "offended," but that's a profound corruption of its meaning. The term refers to a post-traumatic stress trigger, a stimulus that can trigger a genuine panic attack or flashback in a PTSD sufferer. It's a serious and deeply distressing psychological and medical symptom, and using it as a derogatory label for someone who's merely had their sensibilities offended is highly inconsiderate and inappropriate. It should be reserved for use by people who actually have PTSD, and to caution them about discussions of subject matter that could be traumatic for them.

Yeah, don't let people like Christopher limit your vocabulary. Keep using any word you want!
 
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Did you check the ^^ sneak peak clip too?

Totally missed that.

" 'Find your own way'. That's why Bruce became Batman..."
Sounds like "he" was talking to someone. I assume it was Bruce to Kate, by phone or by text.

I reckon that's more likely from a conversation they had in the past, when she was kicked from the West point.
 
Seems like almost every thread these days devolves into some sort of label fest.

People, just be people. Not everything that everyone does is meant to offend you, or negate your agency, or limit your access, or blahblahblah.

Somebody said, "You do you."

Works for me, but I'd add, "and stay out of my business, jagoff."

FFS. :techman:
 
Dude, you've been here a while, and you just spent time writing that long of a response to kirk? Lol, come on now, you should know better.

Only the first sentence was a response to kirk the was rest was just my thoughts.

On the front of Christopher "limiting my vocabulary" ... I get his point, but I "like" using the word "triggered" in such a context since so many on the "right"/that side like to use it against people when they express a problem or social wrong-doing, likely co-opting it from the PTSD meanings. So for me it's "amusing" to use it back at them. Yeah, I guess it's sort-of doubling the minimizing of the word's origins but I think words can withstand having more than one meaning and people being able to use the context the word is in to know how it is meant to be applied.

"My friend who served in Iraq recently had his PTSD triggered by a car back-firing."
"Libruls are triggered by an offensive stereotype in a Mountain Dew commercial!"
"Some people are "triggered" by a trailer for a TV show starring a lesbian woman who's dismissive towards masculinity."

All different things.

Bow.

A tied ribbon, a formal greeting, a weapon.
 
On the front of Christopher "limiting my vocabulary" ... I get his point, but I "like" using the word "triggered" in such a context since so many on the "right"/that side like to use it against people when they express a problem or social wrong-doing, likely co-opting it from the PTSD meanings. So for me it's "amusing" to use it back at them. Yeah, I guess it's sort-of doubling the minimizing of the word's origins but I think words can withstand having more than one meaning and people being able to use the context the word is in to know how it is meant to be applied.

My concern is for the feelings of survivors of trauma, and I'm asking you to consider them as well. Misogynists use the word that way to delegitimize it, to trivialize the suffering of rape and abuse survivors, which is incredibly cruel. I think it's important to push back against that rather than adopting it and thereby implicitly legitimizing it.
 
My concern is for the feelings of survivors of trauma, and I'm asking you to consider them as well. Misogynists use the word that way to delegitimize it, to trivialize the suffering of rape and abuse survivors, which is incredibly cruel. I think it's important to push back against that rather than adopting it and thereby implicitly legitimizing it.
As a writer, surely you understand the consequences of limiting speech.

I'll just leave that right there. :techman:
 
My concern is for the feelings of survivors of trauma, and I'm asking you to consider them as well. Misogynists use the word that way to delegitimize it, to trivialize the suffering of rape and abuse survivors, which is incredibly cruel. I think it's important to push back against that rather than adopting it and thereby implicitly legitimizing it.

Consider it considered and I will strive to be better in the future.
 
As a writer, surely you understand the consequences of limiting speech.

Au contraire. As a writer he's fully aware of the power of words and the effect they can have on others. There are other ways of saying the same thing without stooping to the level of words that are hurtful to others. And, by encouraging one to find less hurtful ways to say things, to get one's point across with consideration for others, would be, by definition, expanding one's speech, not limiting it.
 
Au contraire. As a writer...
Yes, we never get tired of being reminded of his writing.

I'm not interested in anyone dictating what words I can and cannot use. I will use words and take responsibility for them. If Christoper or anyone else wants to limit my speech they can do so to my face in real life. I have no interest in Christopher's rules.
 
Yes, we never get tired of being reminded of his writing.

I'm not interested in anyone dictating what words I can and cannot use. I will use words and take responsibility for them. If Christoper or anyone else wants to limit my speech they can do so to my face in real life. I have no interest in Christopher's rules.
And the point flies right over his head. Hardly unexpected.
 
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This Batwoman series reminds me a bit of Birds of Prey. Does anyone remember that being on?
I literally started singing the *real* theme to the show to myself as I was reading through this thread, and was still doing so as I read your post. So I'm gonna go with "yes". :D

It's available to watch now on the CW Seed app, but it has the awful theme they had to replace the original with for licensing reasons, not the correct one.
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I hope they focus more on the fact that she's a new hero in a city than rather that she's a woman. That really shouldn;t matter.
 
I hope they focus more on the fact that she's a new hero in a city than rather that she's a woman. That really shouldn;t matter.

If all things were equal, sure. But, that's not the world. Ours or theirs.
But, why also remove a part of a person's identity?
Why can't the show be about a woman? Why does it have to be a genderless character?
 
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