I'll ask Eddie at a BSG panel in a couple of weeks at DragonCon in Atlanta.
Battlestar to get a more colorful upbeat reboot?
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My thoughts as well. I think that another short lived (4 season or so) series could evolve from this era of their universe.
"Oz" managed to run with a similar idea for six seasons.Battlestar Galactica: The Chronicles of Tom Zarek In His Cell
Please, please reboot the damn thing. That dark, dreary BSG was full of lameness. Endless crying and the new annoying Starbuck who did everything perfectly was just unbearable. I'd also like to see some robotic Cylons. Leave out the weird 70s big haired aliens though and no ascots(more from an A-team promo picture than old BSG).
Endless crying at the end of the world...
uhm...DUH!
Why is it that people complain that the end of civilization and the apocalypse was depressing? Really? I guess ya'll won't be seeing "The Road" when it comes out in theaters in October.
As for movies...I'd like to see a First Cylon War mini or a Civil War between the Colonies mini (near the time of the development of the cylons).
uhm...DUH!
Why is it that people complain that the end of civilization and the apocalypse was depressing? Really? I guess ya'll won't be seeing "The Road" when it comes out in theaters in October.
As for movies...I'd like to see a First Cylon War mini or a Civil War between the Colonies mini (near the time of the development of the cylons).
Of course the end of the world should be depressing. But a lot of us prefer watching characters who can rise to the challenge and try to make things better than a weekly hour of politics and petty bickering. Tends to leave you wondering whether the Cylons had the right idea.
I swear to God, if some people just went by this sort of stuff when forming preconceptions about the show, they'd be utterly shocked when they actually watched and saw things like Adama coming around to agree with Roslin's decision to flee, or the Fleet actually finding water during the water shortage, or the fact that just about every human military operation after the Fall was an unqualified success (I can think of one failure and one qualified success).
You're right, there are high points to the show ... but that doesn't mean that the characters didn't often (and some -- me, perhaps?
-- would say almost always) resort to the worst of human vices. In truth, there was a *lot* of bickering on the show. A lot of shouting and yelling and shooting first, before the characters actually came to an agreement. And while bickering *is* a human trait, it was to the point where it seemed to be the default reaction of the characters and the "coming around to agree" with others was an exception to the rule.At the very least, that's one valid perspective of the show.
^I thought it was a nice change from the near-perfect, everything is always good average character of most modern TV. Were they people to idolize? Probably not. But they are closer to reality and, in my opinion, more interesting than anyone else we get to watch.
there are a lot of people who said Moore and Eick borrowed much from Singer's canceled project
No, the BSG characters are merely closer to your ideological prejudices about humanity. They weren't realistic at all, which makes a certain kind of sense inasmuch as most of them weren't even supposed to be human. The show had so little interest in real people they turned most of the regular cast into Cylons.
If a remake wants to make its characters more realistic, it would be a repudiation of the series' politics. So what?
You obviously didn't watch the show if you think Starbuck did everything perfectly... she was about as far from that as possible.
She was the perfect sniper, pilot, soldier, etc. She was a drunk and fucked everybody moving to avoid the Mary Sue label-a Mary Sue compensator. Whenever something came up for a mission, like needing a sniper, there was never a person in that field of expertise that was better than Starbuck. The Marines didn't have a better sniper for example.
The sniper bit was a conceit to keep the series regulars at the center of the action in Bastille Day. But Scar went a long way in proving that Starbuck wasn't the perfect pilot. Hell, her capture by the Cylons in The Farm show that she's not a perfect soldier, either.
On the other hand, the character is pretty well defined by the juxtaposition between her perfect handling of being a soldier and her complete mess of a personal life.
No point in getting behind stj's complaint that "most of the regular cast turned into Cylons." The primary regulars were Adama, Roslin, Starbuck, Lee, Baltar, Six, and Eight. Five humans and two Cylons, and both the Cylons had their status revealed as far back as the miniseries! The secondary regulars are a much larger group, and I'm sure I'll forget some of the characters. But, off the top of my head, they are Felix, Dualla, Saul Tigh, Sam Anders, Cally, Galen Tyrol, Crashdown, Helo, and Billy. I count three Cylons and eight humans. All the other Cylons were either guest stars (Cavil, Leoben, Doral, Simon, Ellen, and Tory) or special guest stars (D'Anna).
On the other hand, the character is pretty well defined by the juxtaposition between her perfect handling of being a soldier and her complete mess of a personal life.
No point in getting behind stj's complaint that "most of the regular cast turned into Cylons." The primary regulars were Adama, Roslin, Starbuck, Lee, Baltar, Six, and Eight. Five humans and two Cylons, and both the Cylons had their status revealed as far back as the miniseries! The secondary regulars are a much larger group, and I'm sure I'll forget some of the characters. But, off the top of my head, they are Felix, Dualla, Saul Tigh, Sam Anders, Cally, Galen Tyrol, Crashdown, Helo, and Billy. I count three Cylons and eight humans. All the other Cylons were either guest stars (Cavil, Leoben, Doral, Simon, Ellen, and Tory) or special guest stars (D'Anna).
Let me rephrase: At the end, the only humans were Adama, Roslin, Apollo, Baltar and Helo. And the Cylons were Six, Athena, Boomer, Leoben, Cavil, Tigh, Ellen, Tory and Anders. And Starbuck was, well, something. That lineup shows how ridiculous the claim the characters were "more real" is. If you want to define regular differently, the percentage would change. The point wouldn't.
Not to mention the last version is not even finished yet!
Still, BSG is in good company. Apparently the BBC still had plans for a Doctor Who reboot movie on the books long after the show was revived and became a huge hit and going concern (they still want to do a movie, apparently, but at least it sounds like it'll fall into the current continuity if they do it with Tennant).
And on this very BBS I heard a few days ago that plans for a Prisoner movie were only recently shelved, even though a big-budgeted, highly promoted TV miniseries remake was filmed a year ago and hasn't aired yet.
Why doesn't Larson and all these other folks come up with an original idea rather than revisiting stuff that has already been done -- and not 30 years ago, either, but 3-4 MONTHS ago...
Alex
Primary regulars are listed in the opening credits. Secondary regulars are listed after the opening credits, but are listed first and without the "guest star" banner. Guest stars and Special Guest Stars carry the banners you would expect. But I didn't expect you to acknowledge that your claim that "[the writers] turned most of the regular cast into Cylons" was false, though it is.
As for the realism of the characters, you're so heavy-set on your conceptions of them (repeatedly expressing that the audience is supposed to love Tigh for his poor treatment of civilians, for example) that any debate would be pointless.
Oh. Yeah. Forgot that bit.
makes one wonder, though, how can a Seraph be pregnant? Is there sex on the Ship of Lights?
Yes. Celestial sex. Lots and lots of celestial sex.