I saw it this morning, and while it's not quite up to the level of the first Avengers, or The Winter Soldier, I still enjoyed it. I give it a sold A-.
I actually really enjoyed the overall story, and thought that it flowed together a lot better than people make it sound. The beginning does jump around quite a bit as they set up all of the characters and storylines, but I thought once things got moving the rest of it flowed together pretty well and came together into a cohesive whole. At first my biggest problem was that the Knightmare scene did feel a little random, but since this is the biggest set up for Justice League I was going to wait to see if it was addressed there. Now that I've thought about it more I'm actually not as bothered by it. The end bit with The Flash still feels a little random, but I realize now that in this story alone, it really does a lot to show Batman's mind set and his fears about what Superman is.
Ben Affleck was amazing as Batman. I thought they did a really good job of bringing in a lot of the different aspects of the character, his resourcefulness, his strategist and his investigating. He does kill a lot of people, but I've honestly never been that bothered by Batman killing. He's already such a dark, violent character that him killing people doesn't really feel like that big of a step away from what he's usually like. I also think it's worth keeping in mind that this movie sees him in an incredibly dark place. With the way they end his arc, I could easily see him stepping away from killing.
I really liked what they did with Superman here, it feels like a more realistic take on the character. I can see the appeal of the big blue boy scout version of the character, but it's always felt a little unrealistic to me. I think in the Marvel style of movie that character could work, but it would just wouldn't fit in this world. The reaction to Superman, which is what makes up a big part of his arc also felt very realistic to me.
Wonder Woman was awesome here. We also got a nice bit of set up, and hints as to what her movie will be about.
Jessie Eisenber's Lex Luthor was a bit odd, and not really how I see the character. He did a great job, and it worked as a character in general, but it just wasn't didn't feel like Lex Luthor. I've never really seen him as a crazy character, just as someone who did bad things for what he saw as good reasons. I saw someone mention up thread the theory that Esienberg's character was the original Lex's son, and I actually did have the same thought briefly during his conversation with Lois on the rooftop. His last scene also presented a very exciting possible explanation for his behavior. I'm really looking forward to that being followed up on.
The rest of the supporting cast also did a great job. Amy Adams especially got some good stuff as Lois.
I loved the scene setting up Cyborg, Flash and Aquaman. I'm a huge fan of Eureka, so I got a big kick out of seeing Joe Morton as Cyborg's father.
The action scenes were great. I especially loved the warehouse fight that was released online. I'm a huge fan of the Arkham games, and it almost felt like a movie version of one of their fight sequences. The big BvS fight was also really cool and the big Trinity vs Doomsday fight was amazing. One of my favorite things about the Avengers movies was the scenes were we saw the heroes using their abilities together, and I thought they did all of that stuff incredibly well here. I love that it took each of them using their abilities to finally kill Doomsday.
I wasn't at all bothered by Superman's death. I thought it was a good conclusion to his story through the movie, and it was also pretty clearly a set up for JL. His death here served a similar purpose to Coulson's death in Avengers. I might have misinterpreted it, but the impression I got from Bruce and Diana's conversation at the end was that with Superman now gone, they wanted to bring together the other metahumans to help protect the world in his place. It is also very clearly set up in the last shot that he'll be back sooner than later. I really hope he doesn't come back right away at the beginning of JL though. I'm hoping that they we get to see Darkseid set up a bit as big massive threat that they need Superman to defeat before he shows back up. His return really needs to feel like a event, and I think a great way to do that would be for the rest of the League to be at the verge of being defeated before he shows up to save them.
Like a lot of you I never realized that both Batman and Superman's mothers were named Martha. I loved the scene when they find that our, and that that was what brought them together.
Ben Affleck was amazing as Batman. I thought they did a really good job of bringing in a lot of the different aspects of the character, his resourcefulness, his strategist and his investigating. He does kill a lot of people, but I've honestly never been that bothered by Batman killing. He's already such a dark, violent character that him killing people doesn't really feel like that big of a step away from what he's usually like. I also think it's worth keeping in mind that this movie sees him in an incredibly dark place. With the way they end his arc, I could easily see him stepping away from killing.
I really liked what they did with Superman here, it feels like a more realistic take on the character. I can see the appeal of the big blue boy scout version of the character, but it's always felt a little unrealistic to me. I think in the Marvel style of movie that character could work, but it would just wouldn't fit in this world. The reaction to Superman, which is what makes up a big part of his arc also felt very realistic to me.
Wonder Woman was awesome here. We also got a nice bit of set up, and hints as to what her movie will be about.
Jessie Eisenber's Lex Luthor was a bit odd, and not really how I see the character. He did a great job, and it worked as a character in general, but it just wasn't didn't feel like Lex Luthor. I've never really seen him as a crazy character, just as someone who did bad things for what he saw as good reasons. I saw someone mention up thread the theory that Esienberg's character was the original Lex's son, and I actually did have the same thought briefly during his conversation with Lois on the rooftop. His last scene also presented a very exciting possible explanation for his behavior. I'm really looking forward to that being followed up on.
The rest of the supporting cast also did a great job. Amy Adams especially got some good stuff as Lois.
I loved the scene setting up Cyborg, Flash and Aquaman. I'm a huge fan of Eureka, so I got a big kick out of seeing Joe Morton as Cyborg's father.
The action scenes were great. I especially loved the warehouse fight that was released online. I'm a huge fan of the Arkham games, and it almost felt like a movie version of one of their fight sequences. The big BvS fight was also really cool and the big Trinity vs Doomsday fight was amazing. One of my favorite things about the Avengers movies was the scenes were we saw the heroes using their abilities together, and I thought they did all of that stuff incredibly well here. I love that it took each of them using their abilities to finally kill Doomsday.
I wasn't at all bothered by Superman's death. I thought it was a good conclusion to his story through the movie, and it was also pretty clearly a set up for JL. His death here served a similar purpose to Coulson's death in Avengers. I might have misinterpreted it, but the impression I got from Bruce and Diana's conversation at the end was that with Superman now gone, they wanted to bring together the other metahumans to help protect the world in his place. It is also very clearly set up in the last shot that he'll be back sooner than later. I really hope he doesn't come back right away at the beginning of JL though. I'm hoping that they we get to see Darkseid set up a bit as big massive threat that they need Superman to defeat before he shows back up. His return really needs to feel like a event, and I think a great way to do that would be for the rest of the League to be at the verge of being defeated before he shows up to save them.
Like a lot of you I never realized that both Batman and Superman's mothers were named Martha. I loved the scene when they find that our, and that that was what brought them together.
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