BARROWMAN!!!!
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I want Capt. Jack and River in the same scene with the 11th Doctor just for his reaction.
In fact, it doesn't even mean that he's not involved in the 50th anniversary special.
We need a Barrowwoman spinoff.
Another one?
Alright alright, Barrowboy then?
Oh, shit. I only just realized you actually said "Barrowwoman." I thought you just said Barrowman spin-off which is why I said "Another one."
Although, I suppose Barrowwoman mihgt be accurate when you take into account Captain Jack was apparentally pregnant at one point...
Although, I suppose Barrowwoman mihgt be accurate when you take into account Captain Jack was apparentally pregnant at one point...
Ah, sorry, I just instinctively deduced that what you meant was "har har as if River Song weren't Barrowwoman enough!", so I switched gear.
I wouldn't mind another Captain Jack series. Preferable one that wasn't depressing as hell.
Agreed. Torchwood was just starting to find its stride in Season 2 when they suddenly killed everyone and mired everything in super-depressing super-arcs.
Agreed. Torchwood was just starting to find its stride in Season 2 when they suddenly killed everyone and mired everything in super-depressing super-arcs.
The first season was a total mess in just about every department, but there was something bizarrely entrancing about seeing this all-over-the-place attempt to do a Joss Whedon show in Wales, and while it kept falling over itself, it also took some great risks.
The second season is undoubtedly more polished than the first one, but not enough to make it genuinely good and just enough that it lost that "WTF?!" aspect as it just became a boring Joss Whedon clone with every other episode featuring James Marsters or ripping off an episode like Superstar. Adrift was great, but Exit Wounds' Grey storyline is among the worst I've ever seen.
The third season is genuinely quality television, to the extent that it probably should've had nothing to do with Torchwood at all. When I think of my memories of it, I think of those wonderful scenes with Peter Capaladi talking to a box, not John Barrowman's ass.
The fourth season is the complete reverse, genuinely shit television. An embarrassment and one of the worst things ever released set in the Doctor Who universe.
^I agree with pretty much every part of that, but do find several episodes of Series 2 quite good if more episodes not good enough. Meat and Reset would be the best after Adrift; Sleeper, A Day in the Death and everything Chibnall I guess (didn't bother watching the finale on rewatch lol), catch my interest even if they're lacking too... Adam had Ianto saying, "I'm a monstah!" with cry face, even if the rest was dull haha. I do have a fetish for Chibnall with all his oddities and base infiltration stories though. Well conspiracy stories too recently.
He basically admitted the only reason Wizards vs. Aliens exists is to keep the Sarah Jane Adventures production crew employed. Not that a situation like that couldn't lead to something good but, I don't think they care. I remember the first story being garish.
