I think it would be funny if eternal flirt River was the only person in the universe impervious to the Capt Jack charm
Bump again. Forgive me if this news made another thread, but Barrowman tweeted that he wouldn't be involved in the 50th anniversary special. Of course that doesn't mean he won't be in something else.
^Well yes. I really, really, really hope they keep some of the casting a genuine secret. Even just a small cameo here and there would be awesome as long as we have no idea it's coming.
Oh, shit. I only just realized you actually said "Barrowwoman." I thought you just said Barrowman spin-off which is why I said "Another one." Although, I suppose Barrowwoman mihgt be accurate when you take into account Captain Jack was apparentally pregnant at one point...
Ah, sorry, I just instinctively deduced that what you meant was "har har as if River Song weren't Barrowwoman enough!", so I switched gear.
Agreed. Torchwood was just starting to find its stride in Season 2 when they suddenly killed everyone and mired everything in super-depressing super-arcs.
The first season was a total mess in just about every department, but there was something bizarrely entrancing about seeing this all-over-the-place attempt to do a Joss Whedon show in Wales, and while it kept falling over itself, it also took some great risks. The second season is undoubtedly more polished than the first one, but not enough to make it genuinely good and just enough that it lost that "WTF?!" aspect as it just became a boring Joss Whedon clone with every other episode featuring James Marsters or ripping off an episode like Superstar. Adrift was great, but Exit Wounds' Grey storyline is among the worst I've ever seen. The third season is genuinely quality television, to the extent that it probably should've had nothing to do with Torchwood at all. When I think of my memories of it, I think of those wonderful scenes with Peter Capaladi talking to a box, not John Barrowman's ass. The fourth season is the complete reverse, genuinely shit television. An embarrassment and one of the worst things ever released set in the Doctor Who universe.
^I agree with pretty much every part of that, but do find several episodes of Series 2 quite good if more episodes not good enough. Meat and Reset would be the best after Adrift; Sleeper, A Day in the Death and everything Chibnall I guess (didn't bother watching the finale on rewatch lol), catch my interest even if they're lacking too... Adam had Ianto saying, "I'm a monstah!" with cry face, even if the rest was dull haha. I do have a fetish for Chibnall with all his oddities and base infiltration stories though. Well conspiracy stories too recently.
Torchwood Series 4 destroyed any semblence of faith I had in Russell T. Davies as a writer. Was fun seeing John de Lancie in the Whoniverse though.
He basically admitted the only reason Wizards vs. Aliens exists is to keep the Sarah Jane Adventures production crew employed. Not that a situation like that couldn't lead to something good but, I don't think they care. I remember the first story being garish.