Bakula; a downer?

[RobertScorpio]

I will admit straight up that I am not a big fan of Enterprise. In the past I have derided those who were but, you know what? The show isn't as bad as people are saying it was. Oh, I still have issues with it, but I can accept that some TREKS appeal to us and some TREK's dont; if that isn't a demonstation of IDIC then I don't know what is..

But when I do come into this ENTERPRISE forum, or others talk about it else where on BBS, I find a surprising amount of anti-Bakula sentiment..why?

From what I can tell the guy is a nice person. He never seems to have anything negative to say. So I gather it must come from the way he portrayed Archer.

I do agree with some that his character was all over the place, but most of that I can pin on the writing (same issues with Janeway as well). But I thought, from most of what I saw, the guy did a great job as Archer. So where is all this anti-Bakula sentiment coming from and why? Perhaps, like the star of a movie that didn't do well, the fans try to pin it on the star of the movie/tv show. But in this case I don't see it..I just don't see it.

Rob
Scorpio

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

I also think the character of Archer could have been nurtured more by the writing staff. And I thought Bakula was great.

I don't know the reason for the bashing either. But I have never understood the bashing phenomenon, be it directed at Trip, or ENT, or whatever character or show.

Someone held a poll here a few months back about what fans thought of Bakula/Archer. The result was 60-70 per cent in favor of him. It appears that there are a lot of less vocal folks out there who do like the guy.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I also think the character of Archer could have been nurtured more by the writing staff. And I thought Bakula was great.

I don't know the reason for the bashing either. But I have never understood the bashing phenomenon, be it directed at Trip, or ENT, or whatever character or show.

Someone held a poll here a few months back about what fans thought of Bakula/Archer. The result was 60-70 per cent in favor of him. It appears that there are a lot of less vocal folks out there who do like the guy.

Well, I never watched QUANTIM LEAP..and I saw maybe half of Enterprise...but i think the guy is a good actor and he was great on BOSTON LEGAL several months back...I hope they use him again, and with Shatner!!

Rob
Scorpio

 

[suebsg9]

I also think the character of Archer could have been nurtured more by the writing staff. And I thought Bakula was great.

I don't know the reason for the bashing either. But I have never understood the bashing phenomenon, be it directed at Trip, or ENT, or whatever character or show.

Someone held a poll here a few months back about what fans thought of Bakula/Archer. The result was 60-70 per cent in favor of him. It appears that there are a lot of less vocal folks out there who do like the guy.

Well, I never watched QUANTIM LEAP..and I saw maybe half of Enterprise...but i think the guy is a good actor and he was great on BOSTON LEGAL several months back...I hope they use him again, and with Shatner!!

Rob
Scorpio

I don't mind Bakula but there were cringing moments for Archer; some episodes I liked Bakula as Archer and then some I couldn't find him believable. But thats just me.

 

[JiNX-01]

I love Scott but I didn't always like Archer. I also blame the writers for that. They really messed up that character through inconsistancy, unexplained character traits and a personality that left me wondering if he was bipolar and off his meds.

 

[SFRabid]

For me it was always the script rather than the actor.

 

[Anthony Sabre]

I don't mind Bakula but there were cringing moments for Archer;

Gazelles?

 

[commodore64]

I liked the character and thought he appeared very human. Bakula did a nice job. Many Archer fans left the board, which is sad.

 

[Amaris]

I'm a big fan of Scott Bakula. Nicest guy in show business, in my humble opinion.
I think the writing for Captain Archer was weak, but Scott Bakula? No, he was and still is a great actor. For me, he was one of the few highlights of watching Enterprise.

J.

 

[Bak_and_Blue]

I am huge fan of Scott Bakula, and I also think he seems to be a genuinely nice guy.
I also like Archer but he does have his moments when he isn't my favorite person. Whether that was intentional or not, I don't know (some of it was, some not I imagine. It seems like Archer didn't like himself at times which makes me think that at least some of it was intentional.)

Scott the entertainer is pretty close to without peer. He can act, drama and comedy, he can dance, and he has the voice of an angel. Combine that with the fact that he is extremely easy on the eyes.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I am huge fan of Scott Bakula, and I also think he seems to be a genuinely nice guy.
I also like Archer but he does have his moments when he isn't my favorite person. Whether that was intentional or not, I don't know (some of it was, some not I imagine. It seems like Archer didn't like himself at times which makes me think that at least some of it was intentional.)

Scott the entertainer is pretty close to without peer. He can act, drama and comedy, he can dance, and he has the voice of an angel. Combine that with the fact that he is extremely easy on the eyes.

He can sing! yes. His version of ONCE UPON A TIME on Boston Legal was very touching...and he played the piano as well..or so I think he did.

Rob
Scorpio

 

[JiNX-01]

I am huge fan of Scott Bakula, and I also think he seems to be a genuinely nice guy.
I also like Archer but he does have his moments when he isn't my favorite person. Whether that was intentional or not, I don't know (some of it was, some not I imagine. It seems like Archer didn't like himself at times which makes me think that at least some of it was intentional.)

Scott the entertainer is pretty close to without peer. He can act, drama and comedy, he can dance, and he has the voice of an angel. Combine that with the fact that he is extremely easy on the eyes.

He can sing! yes. His version of ONCE UPON A TIME on Boston Legal was very touching...and he played the piano as well..or so I think he did.

Rob
Scorpio

He's also a songwriter; he wrote Somewhere in the Night which was use in an episode of QL... I love that song, I have it on my iPod.

 

[Anna Yolei]

From what I can tell the guy is a nice person. He never seems to have anything negative to say. So I gather it must come from the way he portrayed Archer.

As a few have already pointed out, this board isn't so much anti Scott Bakula as anti-Archer. Ironically, most of the biggest Trip fans I've run into on this board became interested in Enterprise because they loved Bakula's previous work.

The writing on this show doesn't do this actor justice. I watched my first episode of QL around season four of this show, and was pretty blown away by Bakula's acting. He showed a wide range of emotions, and from what I've been told, few people have criticized his acting or had anything remotely vitriolic to say about him before doing this show...but it's a well-known fact that Trekkies that blow things up to over 9000 times larger than necessary. :P

What impresses me most about Bakula is putting his family first. After the 16 hour workdays during QL and not spending much time with his two older kids because of it, he was really earnest about not repeating that mistake with his two younger children (who were five and 18 months when the show started). He even canceled a scheduled Trek com appearance because it conflicted with a soccer game that came up at the last minute. He's also known by his co-workers for being willing to consider the needs of others over himself, and being willing to help others. The fame of being the biggest name on the show hadn't gone to his head at all. Nor does he make a practice of flat out bashing--a good example being him staying more or less neutral on the issue of TATV.

 

[crmfghtr]

I liked the character and thought he appeared very human. Bakula did a nice job. Many Archer fans left the board, which is sad.

Yes, that seems to be an increasing problem with lists and boards. What is peoples problems anyway? Why do they just come to these boards to bash? You can find flaws in any movie or tv show, and at times with any actor, nobody is perfect, but who wants to come here and see their favorite show or actor bashed? Oh well is lots of decent people in here anyway but always one bad apple that has to post a counterpoint, every time, lol

 

[Flibble]

I am also fed up with all of the Bakula bashing. I am a fan of Scott, and I have had the pleasure of meeting him, and he is a very nice, genuine guy.

So, if people don't like Archer, don't blame Scott, blame the writers!

 

[pookha]

the only thing i blamed scott for during the early seasons was some of his odd delievery.
but he got much better and seemed to be more comfortable with the character toward the end of the second season.

before then he had some really good scenes but also times that he didnt seem to know what to do with archer at times.

but yeah over all he could have been treated better by the writers.

Bakula did a nice job. Many Archer fans left the board, which is sad.

frankly a lot of fans of the show period left here for various reasons.

one that several years in the past the forum was like a punching bag for people who hated the show.

to a degree criticism is ok but some of the stuff that went on at times got a little over the top.

 

[SFRabid]

Sounds like the current state of the official ST forum. You have griefers there that seem to measure their life by how many post they can rack up while harassing Enterprise fans.

 

[pookha]

oh that isnt current.
it has always been like that over there.

 

[Jeri]

...From what I can tell the guy is a nice person. He never seems to have anything negative to say. So I gather it must come from the way he portrayed Archer...

Scot is a good actor and did a good job on Archer; but the situation is that Archer is a tragic character, in a dramatic sense.

He's found a measure of comfort and happiness; but essentially he's a character who is never quite free of the dampening influence that Vulcans wielded over his life and that of his father.

I think it would have been more invigorating had the human race not been encumbered by first contact with the Vulcans. We always do better in our endeavors accompanied by the euphoria and excitement of pioneer spirit.

The insertion of the Vulcans into the equation essentially turned human beings into children, and that is frustrating. Including the T'Pol plotline did give Archer a chance to come to terms with and explore his personal relationship with Vulcans, but it never quite freed the character of his essentially subdued nature.

 

[pookha]

to me one of the consequences of the xindi arc is that it threw off once and for all that the humans were like children to the vulcans.
there were moments before such as cease fire but that was their real progression .
they had to save not just earth but the rest of what would turn out to be the federation mostly by themselves with a litle help from shran and the xindi themselves.

it almost fits that certain factions among the vulcans and the hidden romulans saw earth now as a threat that either had to be delt with and/or controlled which led up to the bombing of the embassy.