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Spoilers Bad Batch Season 2 - This Fall

Like Mace.. He cought a passing speeder.

indeed. It is well known that Mace reached out for a passing speeder... with the arm Anakin cut off before falling to his true and final death.

Lol. I loathe Mace Windu. Let him stay dead, please?

As for how Tech could plausibly survive the fall... who knows. Passing wildlife. Hell, maybe he got picked up by one of his sisters. Maybe Phee followed them and rescued him. Maybe he was terribly injured but recovered by the Empite and made into a cyborg. Wait, sorry, wrong clone. Maybe his armor protected him from the Sarlacc. Nope, wrong clone again. Point being, writers could come up with something if they chose to.

I'm tempted to argue that this is the same franchise that quite literally handwaved the Emperor's resurrection with "Somehow Palpatine returned." I'm not going to, because I hope the franchise never gets JJ lazy ever again.

Also, I'm not straight up arguing that Tech lived. I'm just in favor of waiting for S3 before we draw any conclusions one way or another. Let's see how they play this before we grieve. Call it a really long wake.
 
Damn, that was a hell of a finale.
Saw showing up, just to fuck things up for The Bad Batch, was a big surprise.
Tech's death was also a huge shock. As much as I'd love to see him come back, it would of feel like to much of a cop out to have him miraculously survive.
Well, any chance they might have had to repair there relationship to Cid is shot. I was a little surprised they even went back to her, you'd think Pabu would have a doctor they could have gone too, or that Phee would have known about some trustworthy, or at least easily paid off, underworld doctor they could have gone too.
I'm curious if they really only wanted Omega as motivation for Nala Se or if there're more to why they wanted her. I'm leaning towards there being more there. This seemed like an awful lot of effort just to have there to threaten in front of Nala Se.
I know some people had expected Hemlock's assistant to be another Jango clone, but I did not.
 
Omega really needs a proper helmet and armor.
Well that would require a much more involved discussion about the depiction of child soldiers. The show is pretty borderline as it is, and I think having a 12 or 13 year old in full combat gear might push it too far over the line.
Yes, yes, it's both hair-splitting and semantics at this point (especially after Clone Wars and Rebels) but it's important nonetheless. It's no accident that they're keeping her look at least somewhat softened compared to the actual soldiers.
Indeed one of the recurring questions this season is just how healthy is it for Omega to be raised this way. Or indeed, if The Batch themselves can find a fulfilling life away from war and conflict.

While the idea of Omega growing up to be some badarse, hypercompetent super-commando woman sounds cool; if one takes a step back that image implies a life story that's nothing short of tragic. From a sheltered childhood upbringing as a somewhat glorified lab rat, to an adolescence spent on the run, going from one fight to the next. never settling anywhere for long, never knowing if she'll see another day. To say nothing of the implied loss since what just happened to Tech was bound to happen to one of them sooner or later in this line or work. And if they keep going as they are, it'll happen again, and again, and again. She'll be another Jyn Erso *if she's lucky*. If she's not, then she'll wind up on a similar course as Boba.
 
I was surprised that the official reason that Omega was captured was to manipulate Nala Se emotionally, not to be experimented on herself, as I have been suspecting for some time that Omega's genome is vital to the cloning research, especially with the destruction of the Kaminoan laboratories. Omega's genome being important to the research isn't ruled out, of course, especially if Nala Se has concealed the importance of Omega to her research from the other scientists; the name "Omega" suggests something final and of import.
 
I'm sure Omega's DNA would be useful to Hemlock in his program to alter existence clones, given that she's unaltered and thus provides a baseline to unravel what the Kaminoans did to all the others, but that feels like a side project. Hemlock's top priority is obviously Palpatine's project, which is something he feels he needs Nala Se for, so aside from them drawing some blood, Omega should be relatively safe for the time being. That is until Nala Se can't actual deliver what she's already said is impossible, which we know she can't because he never quite cracks it. So they're on a clock.

As for why they named her Omega; well Boba being the first clone was codenamed "Alpha", so it tracks that they'd name his twin accordingly. She is after all, the last source of unaltered Fett DNA so far as the Kaminoans were concerned.
 
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Hell, maybe he got picked up by one of his sisters.

Other than Omega, the only clone sister we know is Emerie Karr, who would've had no reason to be at the Imperial summit.



Maybe Phee followed them and rescued him.

Okay, that's a plausible suggestion. It'd take some doing to justify what she was doing down in that canyon, but having her tag along to keep an eye on the Batch would make sense as a payoff to her unresolved parting with Tech in Part 1.


Also, I'm not straight up arguing that Tech lived. I'm just in favor of waiting for S3 before we draw any conclusions one way or another. Let's see how they play this before we grieve.

Obviously. Which is why I said "If it's a fakeout, it's a successful one."

On the other hand, I sometimes think audiences tend to get too meta about gaming possible ways out in their heads and thus don't allow themselves to experience the immediate emotion that stories are meant to evoke. The future is unpredictable, yes, but the goal of fiction is to immerse us in the moment -- and to generate empathy for what the characters are going through. We may know all the tricks that fiction pulls to bring people back from the dead, but to the characters, Tech's death is real and tragic, and if we're just keeping a smug distance and patting ourselves on the back over how smart we are about writers' tricks, then we aren't letting ourselves engage emotionally with what the characters are going through, and we're not letting ourselves experience the intended impact of the story. We should let ourselves feel sadness at Tech's evident death, the same sadness that his friends feel. That way, if he does somehow come back, we can feel surprise, joy, and relief along with them.



Tech's death was also a huge shock. As much as I'd love to see him come back, it would of feel like to much of a cop out to have him miraculously survive.

This is also a good point. Death in fiction should have weight. The problem with the overuse of fakeout deaths and resurrections as plot devices is that it leads to the very reaction seen above, a tendency for the audience to assume any death is reversible, which robs it of its impact. I'm upset that they killed my favorite character, but death should upset us. It should leave us feeling cheated and deprived. That's what it does in real life, and it's a copout if fiction always spares us from it.

This show is a war story, after all. Wars have a steep cost.


Well, any chance they might have had to repair there relationship to Cid is shot.

I think that was already the case weeks ago.


I was a little surprised they even went back to her, you'd think Pabu would have a doctor they could have gone too, or that Phee would have known about some trustworthy, or at least easily paid off, underworld doctor they could have gone too.

I figure they went to AZI-3 because he's the only surviving Kaminoan staffer they know of, and thus the one most qualified to treat clones. Though what I don't get is why they didn't try to contact AZ in secret without bringing Cid in on it, or why they didn't at least have their guard up around Cid.


I know some people had expected Hemlock's assistant to be another Jango clone, but I did not.

The accent shouldn't have been a clue -- why would that be genetic? -- yet somehow it was.
 
Xerxes82 said:
I'm tempted to argue that this is the same franchise that quite literally handwaved the Emperor's resurrection with "Somehow Palpatine returned."
Except it quite literally did not.
Christopher said:
The accent shouldn't have been a clue -- why would that be genetic? -- yet somehow it was.
I blame Lucas.
 
Any new on a third season? Seems like they should already be working on it in order for it to be out next year.
Celebration 2023 is in a week. It will probably be announced there.

Everyone at that meeting was an existing character. Other than Krennic, Tarkin and the doctor. We had Admiral Coburn from Clone Wars, and Admiral Romodi from Rogue One and ANH.

Episode guides are up on the official site for the rest of the season
https://www.starwars.com/series/star-wars-the-bad-batch
 
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It's becoming more and more apparent why the Rebellion's greatest victorys all happened after Saw went and got himself killed and couldn't muck up the works anymore.
Well unless you count the liberation of Lothal, though I think that happened the same week he died, and technically wasn't an official Alliance operation. So it's a bit of a wash either way.

Splitter.
Yes, he did Sir!
 
The evolution of Orson Krennic over 18 years.

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So why did they say they have no way of tracking Hemlock's ship? Uh... what about the tracking device?
 
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