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Babylon 5

Re baseball on B5: It's a rotating O'Neill colony - a 5-mile long rotating tube. As Ivanova said, the "ground" is rotating at 60 MPH. Did I mention rotating :D ? So when Sheridan bats the ball down the axis of the tube, shouldn't the ball arc to the left or right as the ground, ya know, rotates sideways?

Think of it this way:

If two guys are on a train traveling at 60 mph, standing perpendicular to the train's direction of movement, and they throw a baseball between them, the ball doesn't leave the first guy's hand and then swing to the pitcher's right just because the train as moving to the pitcher's left. It flies straight from the pitcher's hand to the catcher's hand, in a line that is perpendicular to the forward movement of the train. Motion is relative.

Watching Acts of Sacrifice.

The plot point where the diplomat who believes in superior and inferior races realizes humans are just like them after seeing the slums looks a bit different now. Before it seemed like a convenient misunderstanding, but I think he was unironically correct about the way human culture works.

His people probably learned a great lesson from human culture, that you can protect the social heirarchy by telling everyone they're equal. I'm sure he put this wisdom into practice right away.

He probably studied human historical records, and proposed the plan to his peers to push about universal equality, but then whenever anyone suggests putting those ideas into practice, sarcastically call them 'Woke'.

So you're saying he's a member of the DNC? ;)
 
"Confessions and Lamentations"

I was surprised by how harrowing this one was. Even though they were merely "background aliens", the sudden end to the entire Markab race was extremely powerful and shocking.

I should've known better - I was looking at the clock, wondering how Franklin was going to fix this whole thing before time ran out. Of course, he didn't. The heroes failed - and the price was 2 billion dead.

How about that horrific ending? Opening the isolation section to find Delenn and Lennier huddling amongst mountains of Markab corpses - wow. Am I to understand that Sheridan and Delenn are romantically involved? They're extremely affectionate towards one another.

Speaking of which, I much enjoyed Sheridan's dinner with Delenn, lovingly (and painstakingly) prepared by Lennier. How fortunate that the ceremony had ended while Sheridan was "meditating."

As an aside, this must be the best Franklin episode so far - certainly the one that's given him the most range and the most responsibility for the story's power. I can't think of a better Franklin moment in my short experience watching the show than ordering his frightened Medlab staff to get moving after learning that the disease seems to jump between species.

How interesting, too, to watch this in the age of COVID - there were unfortunate parallels in the response of certain individuals physically attacking the Markab and the current violence towards Asians.

Rating: *****

-You'd think Sheridan would know better than to repeatedly attempt taking bites of the meal before receiving instructions on Minbari customs. He did it over and over and over again, meaning Delenn had to stop him! If I were him, I'd wait for specific directions and follow them exactly before moving a muscle - especially given the possibility of poor Lennier having to "start all over again, from scratch"!
-Hey, Keffer showed up! I'd almost completely forgotten that guy.
-Garibaldi hesitating before ultimately deciding to help the Markab victim to his feet.
-Children do not seem to fare well on B5.
-"Don't look away, Captain. All life is transitory, a dream. We all come together in the same place, at the end of time. If I don't see you again here, I will see you, in a little while, in a place where no shadows fall." The Grey Havens?
IIRC, jms intended to wipe our a species, but hadn't decided which, and eventually went for the one where the make-up made them least useful.
 
Watching Acts of Sacrifice.

The plot point where the diplomat who believes in superior and inferior races realizes humans are just like them after seeing the slums looks a bit different now. Before it seemed like a convenient misunderstanding, but I think he was unironically correct about the way human culture works.

His people probably learned a great lesson from human culture, that you can protect the social heirarchy by telling everyone they're equal. I'm sure he put this wisdom into practice right away.

He probably studied human historical records, and proposed the plan to his peers to push about universal equality, but then whenever anyone suggests putting those ideas into practice, sarcastically call them 'Woke'.
The Lumati's insistence that they would not wish to be involved in the affairs of less-developed races (and their resulting behavior towards the "inferior") is widely believed to be a "Take That" to some interpretations of Star Trek's Prime Directive.

We would neither help nor harm them.
It's not our place to interfere.
The way for one race to help another is to allow evolution to run its course.
It's for their own good.
 
I’m not sure what the intent is, but in 2021 they feel like more honest ruling class humans, who saw through the trick and learned from humans they should be less honest about it.

If the intent was to make fun of the PD I don’t quite see it. The worst interpretations of the PD are motivated by fear of negative consequences of interference, not a belief in superiority.
 
The Lumati's insistence that they would not wish to be involved in the affairs of less-developed races (and their resulting behavior towards the "inferior") is widely believed to be a "Take That" to some interpretations of Star Trek's Prime Directive.

Really? It seems that JMS might have had real grudge, since there is supposedly jab against it in Crusade as well.
 
Really? It seems that JMS might have had real grudge, since there is supposedly jab against it in Crusade as well.
Mind, this is just an opinion but my feeling is that it wasn't a grudge against Trek or the Prime Directive as much as it might have been a dig at fans who'd decided, quite vocally, that the Trek ways were How Things Should Be. I'm reminded of JMS telling how he was ragged on for having the hand links when 'everybody knows' that in the future communicators would be worn on the chest. When a certain vision like Trek's had been prevalent for so long, it wasn't always easy for people to accept something different, even in small things.
 
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Mind, this is just an opinion but my feeling is that it wasn't a grudge against Trek or the Prime Directive as much as it might have been a dig at fans who'd decided, quite vocally, that the Trek ways were How Things Should Be. I'm reminded of JMS telling how he was ragged on for having the hand links when 'everybody knows' that in the future communicators would be worn on the chest. When a certain vision like Trek's had been prevalent for so long, it wasn't always easy for people to accept something different, even in small things.
Oh, yes, and JMS could be obviously very enraged for all these times TV stations were supposedly sceptical of "space-based sci-fi that wasn´t Star Trek" and than DS9 came along...
 
I think that's a by-product of the network, PTEN, not allowing them to have a "Previously on..." at the beginning of each episode. It made B5 at times exposition heavy and repetitive...

Ah, that explains such moments as,when Garibaldi visits G'Kar in lockup and asks how he's doing, G'Kar answers, "Well, I'm using my six week sentence in jail for assaulting Ambassador Molari by writing..."
 
IIRC, jms intended to wipe our a species, but hadn't decided which, and eventually went for the one where the make-up made them least useful.

Something like that, but it was actually the makeup that allowed the actors to emote more effectively. It could've been the Drazi who were wiped out, but their faces were stiffer than the Markabs', and the Pak'ma'ra were never in the running because they just had a solid mask with a little articulation in the tentacles.
 
^ That's just a harmless joke. :shrug:

I mean, JMS never seriously thought DS9 ripped off B5. That's just an urban legend.

Even that time he killed off General Hague because Robert Foxworth was double-booked and chose to do DS9 (Homefront/Paradise Lost) instead? Water under the bridge.
 
^ That's just a harmless joke. :shrug:

I mean, JMS never seriously thought DS9 ripped off B5. That's just an urban legend.

Even that time he killed off General Hague because Robert Foxworth was double-booked and chose to do DS9 (Homefront/Paradise Lost) instead? Water under the bridge.
Another joke, right?
 
I think the jms quote from when Andrea decided to leave and he killed Talia off probably also applies: "Never cheese off the writer." :lol:
Was thinking more in terms of the notion that "JMS never seriously thought DS9 ripped off B5. That's just an urban legend." That's wrong, wrong, and by the way, really wrong.
 
One thing about the Markeb plague episode, they played it like Dr Franklin’s cure was too late to do any good. But didn’t he prevent the sane think from happening to the Pak’Mara? It was proven the disease was transmissible to them.
 
That's true, but given Franklin's personality, he will still see it as a failure because he couldn't save everyone. It's a big driving step toward his constant stim use.
 
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