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Babylon 5

I loved Andromeda for the first season and a half until Sorbo forced out the showrunner and it devolved into a CGI fest whether the story needed that or not. The complexity of stories about Tyr and Rev Bem intrigued me and I'd hoped for much more. Sadly after the showrunner left, Tyr was reduced to attractive (very!) muscle and little else.
 
Some time after I stopped watching Andromeda I have a vague memory of catching what seemed like a jumble of an episode that Tyr was in and in which he was apparently killed after having betrayed Our Heroes, but I'm not even sure if I saw what I thought I saw.

IIRC one thing that irked me in S3 was they introduced the slip fighters(?) but they seemed to be virtually controlled or something, so it was always really unclear what was actually going on.
 
I remember first seeing a few episodes in 93-94 when CHRO-TV was airing it. If I’m remembering correctly, it aired Saturday evenings at like 7:30 or 8:30. The new TNG episode would be on at 6:30 and then it was SeaQuest or Babylon 5 or Thunder In Paradise. But then CHRO lost the rights sometime in 94. I didn’t see anymore until I borrowed VHS from the library (“The Gathering” I think or it might’ve been “Midnight On The Firing Line/Soul Hunters”—-it was one of the early VHS in terms of episode numbers) around 1997. I might’ve caught one or two on another channel around then when the cable company put some channels on for free. Then I didn’t see anymore till about 2006 when I started buying the DVD’s.
 
One theme I have been wondering about...realistically, do Earthlings have a chance at reverse engineering alien technology?

I know that during World War II there were efforts to reverse engineer captured equipment. But the opponents were fairly close to each other in their level of technology.
I was reviewing an old thread, How Difficult Is It To Reverse Engineer Technology?

This is a second theme in reverse engineering-not being able to simply copy a machine, but producing something similar in function at your own tech level.....

Quoting Saturn0660:

"It also depends on your tech level...You might be able to come up with something close ...I'll point out the Tu-144. A copy of the Concord thought to have come from stolen blueprints. Some have also thought that the Buran was mush the same way. Not so much reversed but copied/built at their tech level...."

Quoting Manti:

"One thing that was reverse engineered... The B-29 bomber was completely replicated as the Tu-4 Bull bomber...there were significant differences, and some of the fire control radar systems on the B-29 were deemed too complex for exact duplication, but other systems were substituted that did much the same thing...Granted, the B-29 was simply 1 generation ahead of Russian airframe technology so the scientific concepts weren't too far ahead...but even then there severe problems...."

I understand that EA pulse cannons were derived from captured Dilgar weapons. I suspect that the Narns' big laser cannon (which damaged a Shadow ship) was derived from an old Centauri weapon.

The limits of this kind of reverse engineering are probably defined by the bleeding edge of your fabrication techniques.

A third version of reverse engineering would be just within the limits of what is possible for you. Not being able to make a duplicate or a derivative, but still being able to make something useful. The EA came across an alien shield system, but initially could make work only the simplest application, the Interceptors. An interceptor was a device that fired a bolt to disrupt/neutralize enemy weapons fire. Eventually, the energy-web was derived from interceptor technology, a sort of proto-shield that diffused enemy fire so it hit the hull less hard.

Interceptors/e-web became almost an alternative tech-line.
 
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"Acts of Sacrifice"

An interesting showing of how Londo is now being perceived; his questioning of why "everyone is acting like they're afraid of me" was particularly intriguing. His decree of how the rogue Centauri's death should be dealt with turning out to be even more beneficial than Sheridan and Garibaldi had hoped demonstrated that there's still a lot left of the man we once knew - but for how long will those shades remain? Somehow, I don't see his path getting anything but darker as the war rages on.

(And just where is Morden lately?)

Elsewhere, Ivanova's subplot involving her dealing with a new alien race, who ironically loved the way the residents of Down Below are treated, was entertaining - if ultimately bizarre. I still can't decide what I think of her "sex" scene with Alien Guy whose name I won't bother trying to spell or look up. I honestly don't know if it was funny or embarrassing... or both. It feels pretty incredible to me that he (a "superior" being, no less) actually bought it - but maybe I'm taking it too seriously.

Rating: ***

-Good to see G'kar get to show that he's an alpha among the Narn on the station - but feels like we hadn't seen Na'toth in forever. It kind of leaves you wondering why he trusts her so much. It's not like Vir or Lennier - Na'toth is almost never around.
-Delenn questioning whether they should help the Narn now, knowing that later on down the line the Centauri will be the ones asking for help, to me feels like some pretty clear foreshadowing.
 
"Acts of Sacrifice"

An interesting showing of how Londo is now being perceived; his questioning of why "everyone is acting like they're afraid of me" was particularly intriguing. His decree of how the rogue Centauri's death should be dealt with turning out to be even more beneficial than Sheridan and Garibaldi had hoped demonstrated that there's still a lot left of the man we once knew - but for how long will those shades remain? Somehow, I don't see his path getting anything but darker as the war rages on.

(And just where is Morden lately?)

Elsewhere, Ivanova's subplot involving her dealing with a new alien race, who ironically loved the way the residents of Down Below are treated, was entertaining - if ultimately bizarre. I still can't decide what I think of her "sex" scene with Alien Guy whose name I won't bother trying to spell or look up. I honestly don't know if it was funny or embarrassing... or both. It feels pretty incredible to me that he (a "superior" being, no less) actually bought it - but maybe I'm taking it too seriously.

Rating: ***

-Good to see G'kar get to show that he's an alpha among the Narn on the station - but feels like we hadn't seen Na'toth in forever. It kind of leaves you wondering why he trusts her so much. It's not like Vir or Lennier - Na'toth is almost never around.
-Delenn questioning whether they should help the Narn now, knowing that later on down the line the Centauri will be the ones asking for help, to me feels like some pretty clear foreshadowing.


The script came from Mira Furlan's experiences during the Serb - Croatian civil war and the history that tore apart the region in the former Yugoslavia. Governments not in the conflict argued and looked for reasons not to get involved as more people continued to die.

The idea for the Lumati came one night before production when JMS was flipping through the channels to watch the news. He came upon an interview between a female journalist and a provincial hardcore Islamic leader in the Middle East. Even though he spoke and understood English, he seemed to feel that it was against his religion to even consider talking to the woman journalist as an equal but thorough a translator. She would ask a question, and he clearly understood the question since it wasn't translated to him. He would only speak in Arabic and the answers in English from the leader came only from the translator.
 
If you can get through The Gathering and some of the first season episodes, you're likely to stick with B5 if you like SF. Signs and Portents got me hooked IIRC.

Honestly I've been pleasantly surprised by S1 (which I had mostly not seen before). Granted, my rewatch was a bit curated, but I watched the following episodes:
  • The Gathering
  • "Midnight on the Firing Line"
  • "Soul Hunter"
  • "Born to the Purple"
  • "Mind War"
  • "And the Sky Full of Stars"
  • "Survivors"
  • "By Any Means Necessary"
  • "Signs and Portents"
  • "Eyes"
  • "Babylon Squared"
  • "Chrysalis"
The Gathering was more entertaining than people have said. The rest were usually pretty good. There were some rough episodes I skipped, but the ratio of meh to good doesn't seem terrible to me. Honestly, B5 S1's biggest problem -- like B5's biggest problem in general -- is that its ambition exceeds its budget. It's really impressive what JMS and company accomplished on a low budget.
 
18 year old me watching And The Sky Full Of Stars: "Is this level of xenophobia really realistic?"

37 year old me watching And The Sky Full Of Stars: "Is it realistic these xenophobes only beat the aliens up instead of killing them?"
30 something me at the time delighted humans were finally acting like humans in one of these shows. TNG annoyed the hell out of me.
 
Hi all! Long time lurker posting here saying how much I loved B5.

My first exposure was in TNT re-runs and I happened to see it was coming up next and I said "Meh I heard of this space station show and I'll check it out". The episode coming up was "Messages from Earth" ... I could not have imagined a more perfect introduction (at least for MY mind and how it works)
 
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Honestly I've been pleasantly surprised by S1 (which I had mostly not seen before). Granted, my rewatch was a bit curated, but I watched the following episodes:
  • The Gathering
  • "Midnight on the Firing Line"
  • "Soul Hunter"
  • "Born to the Purple"
  • "Mind War"
  • "And the Sky Full of Stars"
  • "Survivors"
  • "By Any Means Necessary"
  • "Signs and Portents"
  • "Eyes"
  • "Babylon Squared"
  • "Chrysalis"
The Gathering was more entertaining than people have said. The rest were usually pretty good. There were some rough episodes I skipped, but the ratio of meh to good doesn't seem terrible to me. Honestly, B5 S1's biggest problem -- like B5's biggest problem in general -- is that its ambition exceeds its budget. It's really impressive what JMS and company accomplished on a low budget.

You skipped "Deathwalker". Out of all the "skippable" episodes, that one is my favorite up there with "Passing through Gethsamene". Do what you will of course, but I highly recommend that one.
 
I was on COMPUSERVE and I remembered JMS hyping the hell out of it leading up to the premiere, and saying how imaginative and innovative everything was; and how nothing like this had been done for TV before; and how different this was going to be from Star Trek, etc.

Then after the premiere when everyone started talking about how cheap the alien sector looked; JMS started throwing the production staff of the pilot under the bus, and that he had to make compromises and really didn't get the things he wanted for the set, etc.

So yeah typical JMS.
 
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