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I think Doyle gave interviews where he talked about disliking O'Hare (without referring to him by name), and in JMS's autobiography, he describes their dynamic this way (page 329):

Since [O'Hare's] symptoms were exacerbated by stress, I adjusted the remaining scripts to move other characters into the foreground, shaving off some of Michael's hours and reducing the weight he had to carry as the lead. This had an immediate benefit, and Michael began to exhibit fewer symptoms. His situation would've been almost managable had there not been a personality conflict with fellow actor Jerry Doyle, who'd figured out that there was something wrong with Michael. Despite not knowing the full extent of the problem, Jerry took every opprotunity to wind him up like a cheap watch just to watch him spin out.
Considering his final career as AM radio talk-jock, and some of Garibaldi's most brutal views being direct quotes of the actor (the "electric bleachers" crack, for instance), I'm not really surprised that Doyle had a taste for bullying a more "sensitive" man.
Wow, that's pretty shitty.
Seriously? That’s really awful! That’s sad and pathetic, and just plain mean. You don’t screw around with someone who has mental health issues. You just don’t.
Well, in his defense, at the time he probably didn't know O'Hare had mental health issues. It's still pretty shitty, but not as bad as if he knew.
 
From personal experience, Doyle was someone who'd not only call a spade a b!!!!dy shovel, but then hit you in the face with it, to see if you could cope.
If you did, he liked you. But not everyone will.
 
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It really sucks how many people we've lost from this show.Been done for jsut 21 years, and so many are gone. TNG is older, and everyone from there is still alive. Rick, Andreas, Jerry, Michael, Jeff and Stephen. None of them truly old when they passed.
 
Been meaning to ask about Dr Harrison in Exogenisis... Was Durenna in a super convincing rubber mask, staking the joint out for a big score?
 
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It really sucks how many people we've lost from this show.Been done for jsut 21 years, and so many are gone. TNG is older, and everyone from there is still alive. Rick, Andreas, Jerry, Michael, Jeff and Stephen. None of them truly old when they passed.

A damn shame. I think someone before said that the B5 cast was cursed. Given 1/3 of all the regulars are gone, I see what they mean.
 
Been meaning to ask about Dr Harrison in Exogenisis... Was Durenna in super a convincing rubber mask, staking the joint out for a big score?
B5 is hardly a stranger to having actors come back to play different roles. For example, I'm pretty sure almost every Drazi with a speaking role was played by one of just two guys, and I think they also both played a bunch of Narn and maybe a Hyach too. Wayne Alexander played two very prominent roles and a handful of minor ones, John Vickery had no less than two (technically) recurring roles, Louis Turenne was both the original Draal and Brother Theo, and I think even Caitlin Brown came back in season 2 to play a human.
 
I think Josh "Carey from Voyager" Clark was unaccredited a lot on Babylon 5, because he may have only have two credited speaking roles, but I saw his face a lot.
 
They were all LA shows, so it's not surprising B5, DS9 & VOY were a sharing lot of bit players in common. Especially when you factor in "must be able to deal with and act through heavy prosthetic make-up" as a common requirement for a lot of roles, which is bound to whittle the numbers down even further.
 
They were all LA shows, so it's not surprising B5, DS9 & VOY were a sharing lot of bit players in common. Especially when you factor in "must be able to deal with and act through heavy prosthetic make-up" as a common requirement for a lot of roles, which is bound to whittle the numbers down even further.
That aside, I was wondering if Lorien was Jack.

It's even possible that memories of Jack were retrofitted into Sheriden's memories in season 4, because it gave Sheriden "something to live for", because Shadows vs. Vorlons, Lorien had no preference. he loved them both the same.

Serious wtf!!!
Wayne played the Drazi from during Sheriden's interrogation by Earthforce!!??

"Have you been interrogated before?"

"Yes"

"by who?"

"You'd be surprised?

(Something like that.)

But because of all the drugs that John was on, Sebastian could have popped up for a seconds and said "ME!!! IT WAS ME!!"
 
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B5 is hardly a stranger to having actors come back to play different roles. For example, I'm pretty sure almost every Drazi with a speaking role was played by one of just two guys, and I think they also both played a bunch of Narn and maybe a Hyach too. Wayne Alexander played two very prominent roles and a handful of minor ones, John Vickery had no less than two (technically) recurring roles, Louis Turenne was both the original Draal and Brother Theo, and I think even Caitlin Brown came back in season 2 to play a human.

I'd heard that on Star Trek, the practice of using the same actors over and over for aliens came about because they knew they could work despite the makeup, but just recently, an alternate explanation was offered for Babylon 5 doing it, that the makeup company already had lifecasts of the actors' heads, so it was easier to create new makeup for them since they didn't need the actor for the prep-work.
 
I'd heard that on Star Trek, the practice of using the same actors over and over for aliens came about because they knew they could work despite the makeup, but just recently, an alternate explanation was offered for Babylon 5 doing it, that the makeup company already had lifecasts of the actors' heads, so it was easier to create new makeup for them since they didn't need the actor for the prep-work.
It all adds up to the same thing really. An existing life-cast won't do anyone any good if the actor 1) can't act through the latex, or 2) won't go near the stuff in the first place. Though I'm sure as you say once they have someone they know they can work with AND have the cast already done that they'll be among the first people that get called in.

That said, I'm pretty sure Optic Nerve did the make-up effects for B5 and equally sure they didn't work on any of the Trek shows. They did however work on Buffy and Angel at the same time they were doing the final season or two of B5, plus Crusade. Curiously when I looked up which actors popped up in both of those franchises (again, an LA production so no surprise that there's a bunch) that's actually very few that played under heavy make-up on both shows, though there are a number that wore prosthetics on one, but played a human on the other.

To give two fairly prominent examples Robin Atkin Downes of course played Byron on B5, while over on Buffy he was in full body and face prosthetics as a snake demon thing, while Ian Abercrombie played the Lumati ambassador on B5, while over on Buffy he was a nameless "old man" running the show in that episode where Buffy & Faith got thrown into a death match.

There may indeed be some instances on minor bit players being under heavy make-up in both, but honestly I'm not sure how much say a make-up effects studio actually has about casting a speaking role. They may offer suggestions, but final say would have been with the respective production offices.

Plus of course N'Grath showed up on both shows too, but I'm not sure puppets count... ;)
 
Robin Atkin Downes was also one of the Minbari on Delenn's ship when she voted to attack the humans after Dukhat's death.
That's right, I'd forgotten about that one...though thinking back I did have the niggling suspicion that he'd had another role there somewhere but couldn't remember what.
 
Robin Atkin Downes was also one of the Minbari on Delenn's ship when she voted to attack the humans after Dukhat's death.

20 years ago, I didn't like how the girls in my friend group were swooning over that buggers fabio hair.

Zap!

You're BALD!

HAW-HAW!

###k ya!!
 
So the finale had a lot of going on... Anna Sheridan is alive and has been turned into the Shadows’ bitch slave and tried to turn John into a slave as well.

The love confession I knew was coming finally made it to fruition.

Side note: I’ve only ever seen Melissa Gilbert in LHOTP so it was weird not seeing her in pigtails and gingham. Also I’m guessing it was nepotism that got her the part.

Franklin got over his stims addiction but not before almost dying.

Season 4: Sheridan is dead, Londo and G’Kar are teaming up to kill the emperor, and Vir slimmed down!
 
I love the last several minutes of "Z'ha'dum".

The building music, the building tension, the reveal of the Shadow City, Delenn's devastated expression, the Shadow ships surrounding B5, the last journey of the Whitestar...

Oh, and G'kar's great closing monologue.
 
^ The thin ‘Shadow wail’ at the end of G’Kar’s monologue always gets me/ sends the chills down the old spine. That montage is seriously a beautifully choreographed piece of art.

Cheers,
-CM-
 
I'd heard that on Star Trek, the practice of using the same actors over and over for aliens came about because they knew they could work despite the makeup, but just recently, an alternate explanation was offered for Babylon 5 doing it, that the makeup company already had lifecasts of the actors' heads, so it was easier to create new makeup for them since they didn't need the actor for the prep-work.
Certainly, Marc Alaimo was cast as Dukat when the original actor dropped out because they already had a headcast, and Cardassian prosthetics, for him, so he could be ready to shoot Emissary a lot faster than alternatives.
 
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