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Babylon 5

I'll check out the price on iTunes if it's meaningfully cheaper than just buying.

Actually, iTunes pricing IS buying (I don't know if you can rent TV episodes like you can with films).

That said: Each season can be had from the iTunes Store at about $20. The complete series package is also available for $70.
 
just finished a re-watch of the series that I began before Christmas last year. Despite having had the DVD's for many years it's the first time I've gone all the way through and I think the first time I've seen Sleep in Light since it originally aired in Australia.
 
When you throw in the uncomfortable and depressing conclusion to the story on top of all of those things, you end up with the only episode of Babylon 5 in its entire 5-year run that is truly cringe-worthy.

How I wish there was only one. I might get back to doing a marathon rewatch.
 
I've actually always liked "Grey 17 is Missing", so, yes, Believers is the only episode of B5 that I find genuinely cringe-worthy, and the reason is a combination of bad writing and just a really uncomfortable story.
 
I don't love "TKO", "Believers" or "Gray 17 is Missing", and there's a few other S1 episodes I can take or leave as well as a smattering of others, but S3 and S4 in particular I generally love, S2 and S5 I think have a lot of great moments, and S1 has its own great moments as well, though probably less than the other seasons.
 
I am confused about the ending of the Earth-Minbari war. The forces of Earth were on their last legs at the start of Battle of the line and suddenly the Minbari surrender after realizing that Humans and Minbaris share souls or reincarnate in each other species. The word Surrender confuses me. The Minbaris wanted to stop killing humans but why surrender. They could ask for a ceasefire instead. In fact Earth was offering to surrender before the battle in the movie, In the Beginning.

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My interpretation is that the shock that they were apparently killing the hosts of reincarnated Minbari souls was so great that the shame forced the Minbari to capitulate. The war was one of extermination that was initiated by their overreaction to the killing of Dukhat. The Minbari react emotionally rather than logically to extreme events so they're very unlike the Vulcans of Star Trek.
 
I am confused about the ending of the Earth-Minbari war. The forces of Earth were on their last legs at the start of Battle of the line and suddenly the Minbari surrender after realizing that Humans and Minbaris share souls or reincarnate in each other species. The word Surrender confuses me. The Minbaris wanted to stop killing humans but why surrender. They could ask for a ceasefire instead. In fact Earth was offering to surrender before the battle in the movie, In the Beginning.
My feeling is that since "Minbari do not kill Minbari", their shame was so great that surrender was the only option that would satisfy honor.
 
I am confused about the ending of the Earth-Minbari war. The forces of Earth were on their last legs at the start of Battle of the line and suddenly the Minbari surrender after realizing that Humans and Minbaris share souls or reincarnate in each other species. The word Surrender confuses me. The Minbaris wanted to stop killing humans but why surrender. They could ask for a ceasefire instead. In fact Earth was offering to surrender before the battle in the movie, In the Beginning.

The short answer is that Straczynski is really, really, really bad at writing dialogue.
 
The short answer is that Straczynski is really, really, really bad at writing dialogue.
Of course - that's it! The fact that he needed something that caused a rift between the castes and set up a mystery early on had *nothing at all* to do with it! Why didn't anybody ever see that before your insightful post?!? </sarcasm>
 
I also find his dialog wonderful. (and i *like* his sense of humor )...
I do, too. It's highly quotable. And I like that it was a more formal style. As for the 'surrender' thing, it's worth noting that it goes all the way back to the treatment written to sell the show so it's most definitely not a simple 'bad dialogue' issue except in the mind of the beholder.
 
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