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Aviation Geeks unite?! Anybody else care about planes here?

What's your level of interest in aviation?!


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With the US buying heavily into that weird weaponized Air Tractor the Sky Raider 2 and most of South America still (rightfully) in love with the Super Tucano, it’s hard to see who would want it
I think if they put in the right "Sensor Packages", they would get traction.
The nose having the EOTS Ball Gymbal is very much a correct decision
But the rear pylon arms need to extend foreward on the main wing for 2x more EOTS Ball Gymbals to allow for 3x EOTS Ball Gymbals in total.
This could give it very wide field of coverage and superior scanning capability with all 3x in smultaneous action.
 
I think if they put in the right "Sensor Packages", they would get traction.
The nose having the EOTS Ball Gymbal is very much a correct decision
But the rear pylon arms need to extend foreward on the main wing for 2x more EOTS Ball Gymbals to allow for 3x EOTS Ball Gymbals in total.
This could give it very wide field of coverage and superior scanning capability with all 3x in smultaneous action.
True, but its just hard to see who would by them. The Super Tucano and the older Tucano do duty in most South American countries, because it works so well.

Of the rest, Argentina has the homegrown Pucara and even though it's old, it does it's job and its sort of the last vestige of their once proud and totally not Nazi based aero industry. Bolivia is ahead of the game and uses observer drones. Venezuela used to have an OV-10 Bronco but lost it in a coup when one went up against an F-16 and that whole situation is strange, now. Panama, Guyana and Suriname don't really have air forces. Columbia recently upgraded to the Texan II. Peru has the SU-25, the Woongbi and some old Cessna Dragonflies for light attack craft.

its hard to understand who these folks think they are going to sell a plane to. My guess is they hoped to win the American contract and when it didn't work out they've been trying to sell anywhere else. But supposedly it costs around $10 million per plane and at that price it's just around the same as Super Tucano. It's hard to see anyone buying an unknown like that when they can get something with a proven record.
 
True, but its just hard to see who would by them. The Super Tucano and the older Tucano do duty in most South American countries, because it works so well.

Of the rest, Argentina has the homegrown Pucara and even though it's old, it does it's job and its sort of the last vestige of their once proud and totally not Nazi based aero industry. Bolivia is ahead of the game and uses observer drones. Venezuela used to have an OV-10 Bronco but lost it in a coup when one went up against an F-16 and that whole situation is strange, now. Panama, Guyana and Suriname don't really have air forces. Columbia recently upgraded to the Texan II. Peru has the SU-25, the Woongbi and some old Cessna Dragonflies for light attack craft.

its hard to understand who these folks think they are going to sell a plane to. My guess is they hoped to win the American contract and when it didn't work out they've been trying to sell anywhere else. But supposedly it costs around $10 million per plane and at that price it's just around the same as Super Tucano. It's hard to see anyone buying an unknown like that when they can get something with a proven record.
True, that's why Bronco needs to do something the other planes can't, which is to have a superior sensor package while carrying extra fuel tanks & small arms.
 
True, that's why Bronco needs to do something the other planes can't, which is to have a superior sensor package while carrying extra fuel tanks & small arms.
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higher payload, longer range, bigger fuel tanks, more hardpoints, armored cockpit, armored engine bay, wescam imaging pods. In fairness its slower but other than that it does everything any other COIN airplane can, but better.
Is it worth the 40 million per unit America paid? Maybe not, unless that included all the extras in which case, maybe.
 
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higher payload, longer range, bigger fuel tanks, more hardpoints, armored cockpit, armored engine bay, wescam imaging pods. In fairness its slower but other than that it does everything any other COIN airplane can, but better.
Is it worth the 40 million per unit America paid? Maybe not, unless that included all the extras in which case, maybe.
Then Bronco has some "Serious Tough Competition" in the COIN Aircraft market.
 
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Live Video Footage of the RQ-180 landing in one of our Foreign AirBases in Greece.

It's quite the "Flying Wing".
 
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Live Video Footage of the RQ-180 landing in one of our Foreign AirBases in Greece.

It's quite the "Flying Wing".


Interesting shape. I wonder how thrust is generated to keep it aloft
 
The same as every other Flying Wing.
Engines Buried into the frame, Inlets & Exhaust on the Dorsal Side only, not visible from the Ventral Side through regular Binoculars or IR Camera's.

But would they be slits on the back of the wing for thrust outlets, that's what I was wondering because doesn't the F117 have slit shapes for the thrust out?
 
But would they be slits on the back of the wing for thrust outlets, that's what I was wondering because doesn't the F117 have slit shapes for the thrust out?
Yes the F-117 does have Slits, but that's the first incarnation of Stealthy Exhausts.
The B-2 is a bit different.
Who knows about the B-21 & The RQ-180 if they figured out a different solution.

Fighter AirCraft like the F-22 / F-35 & the YF-23 all had different solutions for their exhaust.
The F-35 being the most practical / economical to implement on a Mass Production Scale.
See LOAN (Low-Observable Axisymmetric Nozzle).
There doesn't need to be a fundamental change in the Exhaust Geometry, just the shroud that covers it and helps focus the Exhaust.
 
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F-35 hit
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B-36
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On airline paint
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Flatbed
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Lightning
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F-35 hit
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Yeah, it tanked a hit, flew home, got the pilot back alive.

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The F-35 is quite the Beast of an Aircraft if it can do that.

From how clear the IR Video Footage is, I'm thinking either a ManPAD from some Grunt on the Ground or a Vehicle mounted SAM using IR tracking is what was able to target & connect with the F-35.

I doubt it was Radar Guided since it was using IR tracking.
 
What the…
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On aerodynamics
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if they have a oversized AESA Radar unit on a rotatable steer-able mount.
That would easily explain why they need such a specialized fairing that looks weird.
 
Tech-bro thought and aerospace....a questionable pairing:
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What other OceansGates lie in wait?
 
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