Poor Will Smith.
It just shows that he easily slips my mind, because I rarely watch his movies.
Avery Brooks career. Or is he with the prophets?
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It just shows that he easily slips my mind, because I rarely watch his movies.
People, it's "Spenser." Like the poet.
And Hawk was badass.
And Hawk was badass.
Oh, I don't think it was that.
No. It wasn't. I don't know what Lois & Clark is...and Desperate Housewives has been off my radar since the early part of their second season, when I quit watching it. The only reason I know that it's still on TV is because I used to record Cold Case on Sunday nights and would see it in my satty feed grid.
I mean seriously - who watches that show? I don't know anyone who does.
And if I haven't watched a stupid-ass show like that in 4-5 years or whatever it is, the names of the actresses get deleted from the 'ole hard drive to make way for more relevant information.
Fair enough...
Also Don Cheadle, Terrence Howard, Jamie Fox could be considered A list depending on what one's definition of A list is.
Some A listers are everywhere, doing movies and TV, others stick to only high profile, serious, multi million dollar movie deals, others are known for a particular role that won an award of some sort.
I understand the concept of A list celebrities, but also noticed that Hollywood's definition of things can be pretty different from the "common" person's definition of things at times.
One clue IMO, if you feel awed or surprised by an actor's sudden appearance in a role or show or movie, that might be clue to how much A list he or she is..
I used to enjoy seeing Patrick Steward, (or any of the other T.N.G actors) in other roles, just to see them in-----other roles.
Some A listers are everywhere, doing movies and TV, others stick to only high profile, serious, multi million dollar movie deals, others are known for a particular role that won an award of some sort.
I understand the concept of A list celebrities, but also noticed that Hollywood's definition of things can be pretty different from the "common" person's definition of things at times.
One clue IMO, if you feel awed or surprised by an actor's sudden appearance in a role or show or movie, that might be clue to how much A list he or she is..
I used to enjoy seeing Patrick Steward, (or any of the other T.N.G actors) in other roles, just to see them in-----other roles.
A weak excuse? Some of us who have defended that particular performance are people who have witnessed just that kind of breakdown. Brooks nailed it: the halting diction as the need to explode comes up against the desire to maintain decorum, the look of anguish and the high pitched whimpering at the final collape. Yes, I agree, there have been times when Brooks fumbled the ball but this was most assuredly not one of them. this was an actor completely without vanity and, to me, it was harrowing.
I'm faintly amused at all the people claiming that Brooks "failed" to make the transition to film stardom, as though he even tried.
Brooks didn't even want to do DS9. His wife talked him into it, because she felt it was important that African-Americans today see positive role models on television in shows set in the far future such as Star Trek.
The guy's a stage actor through and through, and I sincerely doubt he has any interest in becoming a "big star."
Brooks didn't even want to do DS9. His wife talked him into it, because she felt it was important that African-Americans today see positive role models on television in shows set in the far future such as Star Trek.
The guy's a stage actor through and through, and I sincerely doubt he has any interest in becoming a "big star."
I have to admit the "I ammmmmmmmmmmmmmm !" part in W.Y.L.B. sounded overdone, but the mental breakdown scene in B.T.S. was touching.
When you take in the entire story and context up to that point, (all the indignity that he's just went through) It's those simple 5 words that nailed it; "I am a human being".
And right before that he was fed up and pissed off before he broke down.
That touched quite a few viewers it seems, because it's either cited as a popular episode or a controversial one (because of the breakdown scene) , but it affected viewers in one way or the other.
C,mon how can someone not be touched at least a little by that scene?
When you take in the entire story and context up to that point, (all the indignity that he's just went through) It's those simple 5 words that nailed it; "I am a human being".
And right before that he was fed up and pissed off before he broke down.
That touched quite a few viewers it seems, because it's either cited as a popular episode or a controversial one (because of the breakdown scene) , but it affected viewers in one way or the other.
C,mon how can someone not be touched at least a little by that scene?
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Avery Brooks is a talented actor, but when he goes into his loud, commanding, black man voice and/or goes into his Ossie Davis/Sidney Portier mode, he gets off the mark a bit. He's a LOUD ACTOR.
Al Pacino is also a LOUD actor. Every movie I have seen Al Pacino in, he always has a scene where he is ranting and raving about whatever injustice in the movie is. I watch Al's movies just to watch the man explode. Hilarious.
Al Pacino is also a LOUD actor. Every movie I have seen Al Pacino in, he always has a scene where he is ranting and raving about whatever injustice in the movie is. I watch Al's movies just to watch the man explode. Hilarious.
LOL, this must be a message from two or three years ago.
I actually think Brooks is at his best when he's being low-key and subtle, speaking quietly or just showing his feelings on his face. Re-watching the early seasons of DS9, I can see many examples of that. It's one of the reasons why Sisko/Dukat scenes work so well: Dukat tends to take center stage with his flamboyance and oratory, which (with the exceptions of the 'I AAAAAAAAM!' line) usually leaves Sisko juxtaposing him with a quieter, more subdued and controlled persona. I always appreciate low-key Brooks acting, while, on the other hand, I've had problems with Brooks in full theatrical speech mode (the way I never had problems with Stewart, for instance).
As did everyone else in that shitty ass movie.
I agree The Big Hit was a bad movie from Mark Walberg on down. Avery Brooks is a good actor in my opinion, definitely better than Will Smith who seems to play himself in everything he has done since the Fresh Prince TV show.
Some of the best moments and dialog of DS9 were between Sisko and Dukat.
I found Will Smith acting very different in "Six Degrees of Seperation".
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
Bullshit!!!
Just because you don't like or love Tom Cruise, doesn't mean that he couldn't play Christopher Pike; he's quite a great actor in his own right, overexposure and Scientology membership be dammed, and as Pike (he's just as old as Bruce Greenwood, for frack's sake!) he might have been quite good. Please try to look past and stop this current idiotic hatred of bigger actors simply because they're well known-you don't hate all of the so-called 'classic actors of the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's for being super-popular now, do you? Well, don't be hating Cruise and Co. for the same thing!
As for you, Mr. Scott-I want to see you act alongside Mr. Brooks, and then tell me what he's really like after you do. Bet that you can't, can you?
And yet, after he accepted the role, the Afro-American media (Ebony & Jet in particular) didn't even try to give him any coverage of any kind; all the coverage was on the clownish 'comedy' stars like Martin Lawrence, every goddam R&B star, and everybody else but him and Cirroc Lofton (the same thing's also happened to Michael Dorn, LeVar Burton, Christopher Judge, Richard Biggs, and Kandyse McClure), so I'm not sure that anybody in the Afro-American community knew what kind of a role model he was supposed to be.
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Bullshit!!!
Just because you don't like or love Tom Cruise, doesn't mean that he couldn't play Christopher Pike; he's quite a great actor in his own right, overexposure and Scientology membership be dammed, and as Pike (he's just as old as Bruce Greenwood, for frack's sake!) he might have been quite good. Please try to look past and stop this current idiotic hatred of bigger actors simply because they're well known-you don't hate all of the so-called 'classic actors of the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's for being super-popular now, do you? Well, don't be hating Cruise and Co. for the same thing!
Geez, calm down!
Nobody is hating Tom Cruise - I am not, he's a decent actor and I've enjoyed a few of his movies - I am just saying that, if he were to play Pike, most people wouldn't see Christopher Pike, they would just see TOM CRUISE PLAYING PIKE. Heck, the new Star Trek might even become 'the newest Tom Cruise movie'.
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
Geez, calm down!
So fracking what? If Paramount executives had bought him over to play Pike, then maybe they would have wanted big box office, and Tom Cruise would have been the insurance that help put butts on seats, and garned a big payoff. Same thing as getting Matt Damon to play Kirk, or Gary Sinese to play McCoy as was originally planned, since the franchise was on life support as it was and needed a lot of star power.
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